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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Liu, Yuan1" <yuan1.liu@intel.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Zou, Nanhai" <nanhai.zou@intel.com>,
	"Deng, Pan" <pan.deng@intel.com>,
	"Li, Tianyou" <tianyou.li@intel.com>,
	Chen Zhang <zhangchen.kidd@jd.com>,
	"Zeng, Jason" <jason.zeng@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2026 16:04:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0593f56-870e-4e79-8552-1760fad255bc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW4PR11MB69363CCE15647FD7D85542B6A3D12@MW4PR11MB6936.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

> 
> Hi David
> 
> My understanding is that init_unavailable_range() initializes all
> PFNs that satisfy pfn_valid(), but not all of them satisfy
> pfn_to_online_page(), since some PFNs belong to subsections that are
> not online.

Thanks for reminding me. I think the right direction is to finally clean up the
pfn_valid() handling.

> 
> You previously mentioned:
> 
>   pfn_valid() says early sections always have a full memmap, so even invalid
>   subsections have a memmap. pfn_to_online_page() says an invalid subsection
>   cannot be online and its content must be stale. for_each_valid_pfn() follows
>   pfn_valid() semantics, and we use it to initialize memmap that is not going
>   to be online and account it as pages_with_online_memmap, which is wrong.
> 
>   The cleanest approach is to avoid allocating memmap for subsections, which
>   also removes the special early-section handling from pfn_valid() and
>   for_each_valid_pfn().
> 
> I also share the concerns raised by Sashiko in the analysis below [1]:
> 
>   Scanners like isolate_migratepages_block() will then blindly iterate through
>   the pageblock and access the completely uninitialized struct pages of the hole,
>   leading to functional errors or kernel panics when reading these zero-filled
>   structures via macros like PageHuge() or page_zone().
> 
> That's why we went with the current approach in v6 instead of your
> earlier suggestion. I'd really appreciate your guidance on which
> direction you think would be more appropriate.
Let me take a stab at just having pfn_valid() / for_each_valid_pfn() respecting
the subsection map.

-- 
Cheers,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-10 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-23  8:49 [PATCH v6 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range Yuan Liu
2026-07-23  8:49 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] " Yuan Liu
2026-08-05 11:53   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06  7:23     ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-06  8:45       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06  9:52         ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-07 11:29           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 12:15             ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-09  3:12               ` Wei Yang
2026-08-10 14:04               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-23  8:49 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] mm/memory_hotplug: improve shrink_zone_span() subsection boundary checks Yuan Liu
2026-07-25  2:49   ` Wei Yang
2026-07-27  9:49     ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-07-30  2:36       ` Wei Yang
2026-07-30  7:57         ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-01  0:59           ` Wei Yang
2026-08-05 11:02   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06  7:14     ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-07  3:22     ` Wei Yang
2026-08-07 11:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05  9:40 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range Liu, Yuan1

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