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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Gautham Shenoy <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [tip: sched/core] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup-preemption
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 08:33:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0859f35-39ec-e5dc-b77a-79162516de31@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02f6a15f094adb3c8d9957b031941d6bd10c2e43.camel@gmx.de>

Hello Mike,

On 8/21/2023 9:00 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 16:09 +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Sorry for being late to the party but couple of benchmarks are unhappy
>> (very!) with eevdf, even with this optimization. I'll leave the results
>> of testing on a dual socket 3rd Generation EPYC System (2 x 64C/128T)
>> running in NPS1 mode below.
>>
>> tl;dr
>>
>> - Hackbench with medium load, tbench when overloaded, and DeathStarBench
>>   are not a fan of EEVDF so far :(
> 
> FWIW, there are more tbench shards lying behind EEVDF than in front.
> 
> tbench 8 on old i7-4790 box
> 4.4.302      4024
> 6.4.11       3668
> 6.4.11-eevdf 3522
> 

I agree, but on servers, tbench has been useful to identify a variety of
issues [1][2][3] and I believe it is better to pick some shards up than
leave them lying around for others to step on :)

Casting aside tbench, there are still more workloads that have
regression and it'll be good to understand which property of those don't
sit well with EEVDF.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c50bdbfe-02ce-c1bc-c761-c95f8e216ca0@amd.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220921063638.2489-1-kprateek.nayak@amd.com/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/80956e8f-761e-b74-1c7a-3966f9e8d934@linutronix.de/

> I went a-hunting once, but it didn't go well.  There were a couple
> identifiable sched related dips/recoveries, but the overall result was
> a useless downward trending mess.
> 
> 	-Mike

--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-22  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-10 13:24 [tip:sched/eevdf] [sched/fair] e0c2ff903c: phoronix-test-suite.blogbench.Write.final_score -34.8% regression kernel test robot
2023-08-11  1:11 ` Chen Yu
2023-08-11  2:42   ` Chen Yu
2023-08-14 13:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 18:32       ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-15 23:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16  3:54           ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-16 12:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 13:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 15:38             ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-16 20:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-17  1:25                 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-17 15:10             ` [tip: sched/core] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup-preemption tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-21 10:39               ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-08-21 15:30                 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-22  3:03                   ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2023-08-22  6:09                     ` Mike Galbraith
2023-08-25  6:41                       ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-19  9:02                       ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not wakeup-preempt same-prio SCHED_OTHER tasks Ingo Molnar
2023-09-19  9:48                         ` Mike Galbraith
2023-09-22 10:00                         ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25 11:07                           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-25 16:45                             ` Chen Yu
2023-08-18  1:09             ` [tip:sched/eevdf] [sched/fair] e0c2ff903c: phoronix-test-suite.blogbench.Write.final_score -34.8% regression Chen Yu
2023-08-22  6:48               ` Chen Yu
2023-08-22  7:07                 ` Chen Yu
2023-08-16  3:40       ` Chen Yu
2023-08-16  9:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 12:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-18  1:54     ` Chen Yu

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