From: Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:HID CORE LAYER" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
sched-ext@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 08/10] bpf: Add bpf_task_work_schedule_* kfuncs with KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 13:56:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0e63b55-65c3-4367-b3da-275df18147a1@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+k-nbq-2PGRSPJDRZ3G9sp9zu3Owqsj7zqO_G+3OQEww@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/9/26 1:49 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 1:39 PM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/9/26 12:47 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 12:02 PM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/9/26 11:58 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 10:50 AM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +__bpf_kfunc int bpf_task_work_schedule_signal(struct task_struct *task, struct bpf_task_work *tw,
>>>>>> + void *map__map, bpf_task_work_callback_t callback,
>>>>>> + struct bpf_prog_aux *aux)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + return bpf_task_work_schedule(task, tw, map__map, callback, aux, TWA_SIGNAL);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> __bpf_kfunc int bpf_task_work_schedule_signal_impl(struct task_struct *task,
>>>>>> struct bpf_task_work *tw, void *map__map,
>>>>>> bpf_task_work_callback_t callback,
>>>>>> void *aux__prog)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> - return bpf_task_work_schedule(task, tw, map__map, callback, aux__prog, TWA_SIGNAL);
>>>>>> + return bpf_task_work_schedule_signal(task, tw, map__map, callback, aux__prog);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought we decided that _impl() will not be marked as __bpf_kfunc
>>>>> and will not be in BTF_ID(func, _impl).
>>>>> We can mark it as __weak noinline and it will be in kallsyms.
>>>>> That's all we need for the verifier and resolve_btfid, no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, it's been a long time. I must have forgotten something.
>>>>
>>>> For the *generated* _impl kfuncs there is no decl tags and the ids are
>>>> absent from BTF_ID sets, yes.
>>>>
>>>> However for the "legacy" cases it must be there for backwards
>>>> compatibility, as well as relevant verifier checks.
>>>
>>> I see.
>>> I feel bpf_task_work_schedule_resume() is ok to break, since it's so new.
>>> We can remove bpf_task_work_schedule_[resume|singal]_impl()
>>> to avoid carrying forward forever.
>>>
>>> bpf_stream_vprintk_impl() is not that clear. I would remove it too.
>>
>> That leaves only bpf_wq_set_callback_impl(). Can we break that too?
>
> Sounds like Benjamin is ok removing it.
> So I think we can indeed remove them all.
>
>> Then there won't be legacy cases at all. It was introduced in v6.16
>> along the with __prog suffix [1][2].
>>
>> If we go this route, we could clean up __prog support/docs too.
>>
>> I think it's worth it to make an "all or nothing" decision here:
>> either break all 4 existing kfuncs, or backwards-support all of them.
>
> I don't see why "all or nothing" is a good thing.
> It won't be "all" anyway.
> We have bpf_rbtree_add_impl(), bpf_list_push_front_impl(), etc.
> And those we cannot remove. sched-ext is using them.
> Another few categories are bpf_obj_new_impl(), bpf_obj_drop_impl().
> There are not __prog type, but conceptually the same thing and
> KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS should support them too eventually.
I was thinking we could remove/simplify code relevant to backwards
compat of existing _impl kfuncs. But you're right, if we start using
implicit args for other types/kfuncs, the "legacy" case still has to
work.
Ok, in the next revision I'll remove all the __prog users, but leave
the "legacy" case support in place for future use.
>
>
>> git tag --contains bc049387b41f | grep -v rc
>> v6.16
>> v6.17
>> v6.18
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250513142812.1021591-1-memxor@gmail.com/
>> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240420-bpf_wq-v2-13-6c986a5a741f@kernel.org/
>>
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-09 21:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-09 18:48 [PATCH bpf-next v1 00/10] bpf: Kernel functions with KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 01/10] bpf: Refactor btf_kfunc_id_set_contains Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-13 21:43 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 02/10] bpf: Introduce struct bpf_kfunc_meta Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-13 21:46 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/10] bpf: Verifier support for KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 19:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 23:25 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-13 20:39 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-13 22:03 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-13 23:48 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-14 0:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-14 3:57 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-14 1:35 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-13 21:59 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-14 0:03 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-14 1:06 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-14 4:08 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 04/10] resolve_btfids: Support " Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 19:15 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-09 19:34 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 23:25 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-10 1:15 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-12 16:51 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-13 1:49 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-13 16:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 05/10] selftests/bpf: Add tests " Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 23:25 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-10 1:29 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-12 16:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 06/10] bpf: Add bpf_wq_set_callback kfunc with KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 07/10] HID: Use bpf_wq_set_callback kernel function Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 21:34 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 08/10] bpf: Add bpf_task_work_schedule_* kfuncs with KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 19:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 20:02 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 20:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 21:39 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 21:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 21:56 ` Ihor Solodrai [this message]
2026-01-12 18:53 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-12 22:43 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 09/10] bpf: Add bpf_stream_vprintk " Ihor Solodrai
2026-01-09 18:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 10/10] bpf,docs: Document KF_IMPLICIT_ARGS flag Ihor Solodrai
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