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From: "Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Karol Herbst" <kherbst@redhat.com>,
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	"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
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Subject: Re: [v1 resend 08/12] mm/thp: add split during migration support
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 06:29:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1e26e18-83db-4c0e-b8d8-0af8ffa8a206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ace3c9e-452a-4bd2-a7df-6fa9fd3de290@nvidia.com>

On 7/7/25 05:35, Balbir Singh wrote:
> On 7/5/25 13:17, Mika Penttilä wrote:
>>>>>> +static void migrate_vma_split_pages(struct migrate_vma *migrate,
>>>>>> +					unsigned long idx, unsigned long addr,
>>>>>> +					struct folio *folio)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +	unsigned long i;
>>>>>> +	unsigned long pfn;
>>>>>> +	unsigned long flags;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	folio_get(folio);
>>>>>> +	split_huge_pmd_address(migrate->vma, addr, true);
>>>>>> +	__split_huge_page_to_list_to_order(folio_page(folio, 0), NULL, 0, true);
>>>>> We already have reference to folio, why is folio_get() needed ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Splitting the page splits pmd for anon folios, why is there split_huge_pmd_address() ?
>>>> Oh I see 
>>>> +	if (!isolated)
>>>> +		unmap_folio(folio);
>>>>
>>>> which explains the explicit split_huge_pmd_address(migrate->vma, addr, true);
>>>>
>>>> Still, why the folio_get(folio);?
>>>>  
>>>>
>>> That is for split_huge_pmd_address, when called with freeze=true, it drops the
>>> ref count on the page
>>>
>>> 	if (freeze)
>>> 		put_page(page);
>>>
>>> Balbir
>>>
>> yeah I guess you could have used the pmd_migration path in __split_huge_pmd_locked, and not use freeze because you have installed the migration pmd entry already.
>> Which brings to a bigger concern, that you do need the freeze semantics, like clear PageAnonExclusive (which may fail). I think you did not get this part
>> right in the 3/12 patch. And in this patch, you can't assume the split succeeds, which would mean you can't migrate the range at all.
>> Doing the split this late is quite problematic all in all.
>>
> Clearing PageAnonExclusive will *not* fail for device private pages from what I can see in __folio_try_share_anon_rmap().
> Doing the split late is a requirement due to the nature of the three stage migration operation, the other side
> might fail to allocate THP sized pages and so the code needs to deal with it
>
> Balbir Singh

Yes seems clearing PageAnonExclusive doesn't fail for device private pages in the end, 
but the 3/12 patch doesn't even try to clear PageAnonExclusive with your changes afaics,
which is a separate issue.

And __split_huge_page_to_list_to_order() (return value is not checked) can fail for out of memory.
So think you can not just assume split just works. If late split is a requirement (which I can understand is),
you should be prepared to rollback somehow the operation.

>
--Mika


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-03 23:34 [v1 resend 00/12] THP support for zone device page migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 01/12] mm/zone_device: support large zone device private folios Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  5:28   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  6:47     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 02/12] mm/migrate_device: flags for selecting device private THP pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  5:31   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  7:31     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-19 20:06       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-19 20:16         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  3:15   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 03/12] mm/thp: zone_device awareness in THP handling code Balbir Singh
2025-07-04  4:46   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-06  1:21     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:10   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-05  0:14     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  6:09       ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  7:40         ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  3:49   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-08  4:20     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08  4:30       ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-07  6:07   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  4:59     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  4:42   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 04/12] mm/migrate_device: THP migration of zone device pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 15:35   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-18  6:59   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  7:04     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-18  7:21       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  8:22         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22  4:54           ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-19  2:10   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 05/12] mm/memory/fault: add support for zone device THP fault handling Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 19:34   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 06/12] lib/test_hmm: test cases and support for zone device private THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 07/12] mm/memremap: add folio_split support Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:14   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-06  1:24     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 08/12] mm/thp: add split during migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-04  5:17   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-04  6:43     ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-05  0:26       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-05  3:17         ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-07  2:35           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  3:29             ` Mika Penttilä [this message]
2025-07-08  7:37               ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:24   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-05  0:58     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-05  1:55       ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  1:15         ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-06  1:34           ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  1:47             ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-06  2:34               ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  3:03                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-07  2:29                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  2:45                     ` Zi Yan
2025-07-08  3:31                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08  7:43                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-16  5:34               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-16 11:19                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-16 16:24                   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-16 21:53                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 22:24                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-17 23:04                         ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  0:41                           ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  1:25                             ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  3:33                               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18 15:06                                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23  0:00                                   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 09/12] lib/test_hmm: add test case for split pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 10/12] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new tests for zone device THP migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 11/12] gpu/drm/nouveau: add THP migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 12/12] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new throughput tests including THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 16:16 ` [v1 resend 00/12] THP support for zone device page migration Zi Yan
2025-07-04 23:56   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08 14:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-08 22:43   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 23:40 ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  3:57   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-18  4:57     ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-21 23:48       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  0:07         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22  0:51           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-19  0:53     ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-21 11:42     ` Francois Dugast
2025-07-21 23:34       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  0:01         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22 19:34         ` [PATCH] mm/hmm: Do not fault in device private pages owned by the caller Francois Dugast
2025-07-22 20:07           ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-23 15:34             ` Francois Dugast
2025-07-23 18:05               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-24  0:25           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-24  5:02             ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-24  5:46               ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-24  5:57                 ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-24  6:04                   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-24  6:47                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-28 13:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-08  0:21           ` Matthew Brost
2025-08-08  9:43             ` Francois Dugast

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