From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 07/22] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton to enable TDX on demand
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 11:26:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f29fb57f-f59f-9101-74b6-e48e738963c5@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230703175556.nn5xozz7dzxjocqm@box.shutemov.name>
On 7/3/23 10:55, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com wrote:
>> I'm thikning we want something along the lines of the Xen preemptible
>> hypercalls, except less crazy. Where the caller does:
>>
>> for (;;) {
>> ret = tdcall(fn, args);
>> if (ret == -EAGAIN) {
>> cond_resched();
>> continue;
>> }
>> break;
>> }
>>
>> And then the TDX black box provides a guarantee that any one tdcall (or
>> seamcall or whatever) never takes more than X ns (possibly even
>> configurable) and we get to raise a bug report if we can prove it
>> actually takes longer.
> TDG.VP.VMCALL TDCALL can take arbitrary amount of time as it handles over
> control to the host/VMM.
>
> But I'm not quite follow how it is different from the host stopping
> scheduling vCPU on a random instruction. It can happen at any point and
> TDCALL is not special from this PoV.
Well, for one, if the host stops the vCPU on a random instruction the
host has to restore all the vCPU state. *ALL* of it. That means that
after the host hands control back, the guest is perfectly ready to take
all the interrupts that are pending.
These TDCALLs are *VERY* different. The guest gets control back and has
some amount of its state zapped, RBP being the most annoying current
example of state that is lost. So the guest resumes control here and
must handle all of its interrupts with some of its state (and thus
ability to cleanly handle the interrupt) gone.
The instructions after state is lost are very much special. Just look
at the syscall gap.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-03 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-26 14:12 [PATCH v12 00/22] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 01/22] x86/tdx: Define TDX supported page sizes as macros Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 02/22] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX during kernel boot Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 03/22] x86/virt/tdx: Make INTEL_TDX_HOST depend on X86_X2APIC Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 04/22] x86/cpu: Detect TDX partial write machine check erratum Kai Huang
2023-06-29 11:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 05/22] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL infrastructure Kai Huang
2023-06-27 9:48 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-27 10:28 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-27 11:36 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 0:19 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-28 3:09 ` Chao Gao
2023-06-28 3:34 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 11:50 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 23:31 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 11:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-28 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 23:25 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 10:15 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 23:21 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 3:40 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 06/22] x86/virt/tdx: Handle SEAMCALL running out of entropy error Kai Huang
2023-06-28 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 23:30 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 07/22] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton to enable TDX on demand Kai Huang
2023-06-26 21:21 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2023-06-27 10:37 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-27 9:50 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-27 10:34 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-27 12:18 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-27 22:37 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 0:28 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 11:55 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 0:15 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 9:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 10:09 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 18:42 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-07-01 8:15 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 0:31 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-28 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 0:00 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 9:48 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 0:08 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 13:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 0:10 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 9:55 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 18:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 19:05 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-30 21:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-30 21:58 ` Dan Williams
2023-06-30 23:13 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-03 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 14:40 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-03 15:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 15:26 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-03 17:55 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-07-03 18:26 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-07-05 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-04 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-04 21:50 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-05 7:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 7:54 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-05 14:34 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-05 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-06 14:49 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-10 17:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-29 11:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-29 22:58 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 08/22] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and TDX-capable memory Kai Huang
2023-06-27 9:51 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-27 10:45 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-27 11:37 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-27 11:46 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 9:15 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 9:58 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 09/22] x86/virt/tdx: Use all system memory when initializing TDX module as TDX memory Kai Huang
2023-06-28 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 0:57 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-11 11:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-11 12:27 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 10/22] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to construct TDMRs to cover all TDX memory regions Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 11/22] x86/virt/tdx: Fill out " Kai Huang
2023-07-04 7:28 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 12/22] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-06-27 9:51 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-07-04 7:40 ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-04 8:59 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-11 11:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-11 11:49 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-11 11:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 13/22] x86/virt/tdx: Designate reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-07-05 5:29 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 14/22] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with the TDMRs and global KeyID Kai Huang
2023-07-05 6:49 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 15/22] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2023-07-05 8:13 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 16/22] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-07-06 5:31 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 17/22] x86/kexec: Flush cache of TDX private memory Kai Huang
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 18/22] x86/virt/tdx: Keep TDMRs when module initialization is successful Kai Huang
2023-06-28 9:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-29 1:03 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 12:23 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 12:48 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-29 0:24 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 19/22] x86/kexec(): Reset TDX private memory on platforms with TDX erratum Kai Huang
2023-06-28 9:20 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-29 0:32 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-29 0:58 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 3:19 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 5:38 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 9:45 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 9:48 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-28 12:29 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-29 0:27 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-07 4:01 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 20/22] x86/virt/tdx: Allow SEAMCALL to handle #UD and #GP Kai Huang
2023-06-28 12:32 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-28 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 20:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 21:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-28 21:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 9:03 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-30 10:02 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 10:22 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-30 11:06 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 10:33 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 10:18 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 15:16 ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-01 8:16 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 11:05 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 15:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 12:15 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-05 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 11:34 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-05 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 12:53 ` Huang, Kai
2023-07-05 20:56 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-07-05 12:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-29 11:16 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-29 10:00 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 21/22] x86/mce: Improve error log of kernel space TDX #MC due to erratum Kai Huang
2023-06-28 12:38 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-07-07 7:26 ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26 14:12 ` [PATCH v12 22/22] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX host support Kai Huang
2023-06-28 7:04 ` [PATCH v12 00/22] TDX host kernel support Yuan Yao
2023-06-28 8:12 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 1:01 ` Yuan Yao
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