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From: Qingfang Deng <qingfang.deng@linux.dev>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	kees@kernel.org, ericwouds@gmail.com, manizada@pm.me,
	nbd@nbd.name, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, norbert@doyensec.com,
	gnault@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] pppoe: pass bound packets directly to generic PPP
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 11:11:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6289ac9-0974-4132-982b-b2072290056b@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806012820.1905519-2-kuba@kernel.org>

Hi,

On 2026/8/6 9:28, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> This is (mostly) an AI-generated review of your patch.
>
> One non-AI question - presumably you're doing this to improve performance?
> Could you add some numbers to the cover letter?

Yes. I may add those numbers to v2. Note that the generic PPP RX also 
serializes internally (which I plan to remove in another patch), so this 
patch alone won't significantly improve performance.

> ---
> pppoe: pass bound packets directly to generic PPP
>
> This drops __sk_receive_skb() for PPPOX_BOUND PPPoE sockets and hands
> session frames straight to ppp_input() from pppoe_rcv(), relying on the
> RCU-deferred channel free added by ec4215683e47.  It also adds a
> synchronize_net() in pppoe_connect() after the old session is unhashed,
> before po->chan is cleared and reused.
>
> No Link: tags are present in the commit header.
>
> A few questions below.
>
>> diff --git a/drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c b/drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c
>> index 6874a1a8edaf1..0624116241823 100644
>> --- a/drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c
>> +++ b/drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c
>> @@ -345,10 +345,10 @@ static struct notifier_block pppoe_notifier = {
>>   
>>   /************************************************************************
>>    *
>> - * Do the real work of receiving a PPPoE Session frame.
>> + * Backlog receive a PPPoE Session frame and deliver to userspace.
>>    *
>>    ***********************************************************************/
>> -static int pppoe_rcv_core(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb)
>> +static int pppoe_backlog_rcv(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb)
>>   {
>>   	struct pppox_sock *po = pppox_sk(sk);
> [Severity: Low]
> Is the new banner comment accurate?  The function body still delivers to
> the generic PPP layer, not to userspace:
>
> drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c:pppoe_backlog_rcv() {
> 	if (sk->sk_state & PPPOX_BOUND) {
> 		ppp_input(&po->chan, skb);
> 	} else {
> 		if (sock_queue_rcv_skb(sk, skb))
> 			goto abort_kfree;
> 	}
> }
>
> That branch still looks reachable: pppoe_rcv() only takes the new direct
> path when it observes PPPOX_BOUND, and a frame observed while !BOUND is put
> on the socket backlog by __sk_receive_skb() and only evaluated at
> release_sock() time.  By then pppox_ioctl(PPPIOCGCHAN) may already have run
> sk->sk_state |= PPPOX_BOUND under lock_sock().
>
> Could the comment mention that the bound case still goes to ppp_input(), so
> that a later reader does not remove the branch on the strength of the banner
> text?


I'll update the banner comment.


>
> [ ... ]
>
>> @@ -420,6 +420,10 @@ static int pppoe_rcv(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev,
>>   	if (!po)
>>   		goto drop;
>>   
>> +	if (likely(po->sk.sk_state & PPPOX_BOUND)) {
>> +		ppp_input(&po->chan, skb);
>> +		return NET_RX_SUCCESS;
>> +	}
>>   	return __sk_receive_skb(&po->sk, skb, 0, 1, false);
> [Severity: Medium]
> Does this skip socket filters and the skb->dev clearing that
> __sk_receive_skb() used to perform for bound sessions?
>
> net/core/sock.c:__sk_receive_skb() {
> 	reason = sk_filter_trim_cap(sk, skb, trim_cap);
> 	if (reason)
> 		goto discard_and_relse;
>
> 	skb->dev = NULL;
> 	...
> }
>
> Two things in sk_filter_trim_cap() look relevant here.  A filter attached
> with SO_ATTACH_FILTER/SO_ATTACH_BPF is now silently ignored for all bound
> session traffic; do_sock_setsockopt() routes SOL_SOCKET options to
> sock_setsockopt() for PF_PPPOX since pppoe does not set SOCK_CUSTOM_SOCKOPT,
> so sk->sk_filter can be non-NULL.  The pfmemalloc guard is also bypassed:
>
> net/core/filter.c:sk_filter_trim_cap() {
> 	if (skb_pfmemalloc(skb) && !sock_flag(sk, SOCK_MEMALLOC)) {
> 		NET_INC_STATS(sock_net(sk), LINUX_MIB_PFMEMALLOCDROP);
> 		return SKB_DROP_REASON_PFMEMALLOC;
> 	}
> 	...
> }
>
> The dropped skb->dev = NULL also matters for the frames ppp_input() parks on
> pch->file.rq (proto >= 0xc000, PPP_CCPFRAG, or pch->ppp == NULL) -- those can
> now sit queued indefinitely holding a non-refcounted net_device pointer.  Is
> that intentional?  The cgroup-BPF and LSM parts of sk_filter_trim_cap() do
> appear to be no-ops for PF_PPPOX, so those are not a concern, and the
> sk_rcvqueues_full() check is not meaningful for the bound path.
>
> Note the PPPOX_BOUND branch in pppoe_backlog_rcv() still runs under the old
> contract, so the same class of frame is handled two different ways depending
> on timing.  Could the changelog say something about the filtering and
> skb->dev behaviour change?

The sk filter is an unintended side effect when sk_receive_skb() was 
introduced (commit 25995ff57767). pppd has never used that to filter 
PPPoE packets, instead it uses the generic PPP filter.

The dropped skb->dev = NULL should not matter, as the generic PPP layer 
does not expect it to be initialized by an underlying channel.

>
> [Severity: Low]
> Should this read be annotated?  po->sk.sk_state is loaded here from softirq
> with no lock held, while every writer stores it with a plain access under
> lock_sock():
>
> drivers/net/ppp/pppox.c:pppox_unbind_sock()	sk->sk_state = PPPOX_DEAD;
> drivers/net/ppp/pppox.c:pppox_ioctl()		sk->sk_state |= PPPOX_BOUND;
> drivers/net/ppp/pppoe.c:pppoe_connect()		sk->sk_state = PPPOX_CONNECTED;
>
> Before the patch the test happened inside bh_lock_sock() in
> __sk_receive_skb(), so it was serialized against those writers.  Would
> KCSAN report this now, and would READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() be appropriate?
>
> There is also a bare control dependency: pppoe_connect() fills in
> po->chan.{hdrlen,mtu,private,ops}, calls ppp_register_net_channel() (which
> sets chan->ppp), and only then publishes sk->sk_state, with no release
> store to pair with.  The reader then loads po->chan.ppp inside ppp_input()
> with no acquire.  As far as I can tell the worst outcome is ppp_input()
> seeing !pch and dropping the frame, so this looks like an annotation
> question rather than a correctness one.  pppol2tp_recv() has the same
> unannotated pattern.
sk->sk_state is already `volatile` so I don't think it needs an extra 
READ/WRITE_ONCE() which does the same thing.
> [Severity: Low]
> Can frames reach ppp_input() out of arrival order now?  Two paths can feed
> the same channel:
>
> pppoe_rcv() -> ppp_input()			(softirq, no socket lock)
> release_sock() -> pppoe_backlog_rcv() -> ppp_input()	(process context)
>
> pppox_ioctl(PPPIOCGCHAN) sets sk->sk_state |= PPPOX_BOUND under lock_sock().
> A frame that arrived just before that, while the socket was owned by the
> ioctl caller, went to the socket backlog.  A frame arriving after the BOUND
> store but before release_sock() takes the new fast path and is handed to
> ppp_input() immediately, ahead of the older backlogged one.
>
> ppp_input() serializes internally, and the window only exists once per
> session while LCP/auth frames are in flight, so this may be acceptable --
> but is it worth a note?


I may add a comment into pppoe_backlog_rcv().


>
> [Severity: Low]
> Does this leave the documented channel contract stale?
>
> include/linux/ppp_channel.h {
>   * SMP locking notes:
>   * The channel code must ensure that when it calls ppp_unregister_channel,
>   * nothing is executing in any of the procedures above, for that
>   * channel.
> }
>
> ppp_input() is one of the listed procedures.  After this change pppoe_rcv()
> calls it from softirq with no serialization, while every pppoe caller that
> reaches ppp_unregister_channel() via pppox_unbind_sock() -- pppoe_release(),
> pppoe_flush_dev(), pppoe_unbind_sock_work(), pppoe_connect() -- does so
> without draining in-flight ppp_input() callers.  In pppoe_connect() the new
> synchronize_net() sits after pppox_unbind_sock(), so it fences the later
> memset(&po->chan) and re-registration rather than the unregister itself.
>
> The RCU-deferred struct channel free from ec4215683e47 does appear to close
> the use-after-free, and pppol2tp_recv() already calls ppp_input() the same
> lockless way, so this is about the text rather than a runtime failure.
> Should include/linux/ppp_channel.h (and possibly
> Documentation/networking/ppp_generic.rst) be updated to describe the
> RCU-based rule that now makes this safe?
>
> [ ... ]


True, but it should be done in a separate patch.


>
>> @@ -625,6 +629,13 @@ static int pppoe_connect(struct socket *sock, struct sockaddr_unsized *uservaddr
>>   		pn = pppoe_pernet(sock_net(sk));
>>   		delete_item(pn, po->pppoe_pa.sid,
>>   			    po->pppoe_pa.remote, po->pppoe_ifindex);
>> +
>> +		/* pppoe_rcv() can call ppp_input() without taking the socket
>> +		 * lock. Once the socket is unhashed, wait for any receive path
>> +		 * that found it earlier before clearing and reusing po->chan.
>> +		 */
>> +		synchronize_net();
>> +
>>   		if (po->pppoe_dev) {
>>   			dev_put(po->pppoe_dev);
>>   			po->pppoe_dev = NULL;
> [Severity: Low]
> Is holding the socket lock across the grace period necessary here?
> pppoe_connect() takes lock_sock(sk) at the top, so every disconnect/rebind
> of a session now blocks other users of that socket for a full,
> non-expedited RCU grace period.  The drain is only needed to protect the
> following memset(&po->chan, 0, sizeof(po->chan)), so could it be arranged
> without the socket lock held?
>
> For the record, this does not look like it can stall RTNL:
> delete_item() unhashes the socket before synchronize_net(), and
> pppoe_flush_dev() only locks sockets it finds by walking pn->hash_table, so
> the RTNL-holding notifier cannot find the socket sleeping in the grace
> period.

pppd is single-threaded, so in practice, "other users of that socket" do 
not exist.

If there are multiple users of one socket, the current implementation 
needs the lock to keep the entire teardown/rebind transaction serialized.

A plain unlock creates this race:

1. Caller A unbinds and unhashes the old session, then unlocks.
2. Caller B connects a new session on the same socket. PPPOX_DEAD 
permits this.
3. B clears and registers po->chan for its session.
4. A reacquires the lock and resumes inside its old teardown branch, 
overwriting B's socket.

Best regards,

Qingfang


      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-06  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04  7:44 [PATCH net-next] pppoe: pass bound packets directly to generic PPP Qingfang Deng
2026-08-06  1:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-08-06  3:11   ` Qingfang Deng [this message]

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