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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@linbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Lars Ellenberg <lars.ellenberg@linbit.com>,
	drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: state of drbd in mainline
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 06:29:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9d89282-3a67-ad97-149f-52325e23607c@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADGDV=U5jwe0CZ12174cMahfD_h-GsBswWaA1VOJbHaC1nsrUw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/29/22 1:50 AM, Philipp Reisner wrote:
>> The complete lack of bug reports and maintainer interaction usually
>> suggests low to no use and heavy bitrot.  If that is not the case
>> here that's fine, just asking..
>>
> 
> FYI, feature-wise the in-tree DRBD is frozen. Maintenance only. Users,
> seeking advanced
> features switch to the out-of-tree DRBD and use other means of communication:
> Github issues, linbit's community slack channel, last not least
> linbit's ticketing system.
> 
> That is why you see virtually no activity.

I've been thinking the same thing. Even if most users are out-of-tree, you'd
still expect to see at least some reports on the list. A few followup
questions:

- Why aren't the drbd maintainers responding to posted patches? They seem
  to simply be ignored, and I'm left to pickup the trivial ones that look
  fine to me. In-kernel drbd appears largely unmaintained, and has been for
  years.

- Even if out-of-band communication is used for in-kernel users of drbd,
  that doesn't result in any patches or fixes that should go upstream?

- If there's zero activity for in-kernel drbd, all users are using the
  out-of-tree version?

As far as I can tell, drbd upstream is stone cold dead, and has been for
years. Why shouldn't it just get removed? Is it just bait to get people
to use an out-of-tree version?

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-29 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-29  7:06 state of drbd in mainline Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-29  7:24 ` Philipp Reisner
     [not found] ` <CADGDV=UgjZAbmAN-2bO1nyDvA=XCC9Lf2dxWHZ0BwxF12nnztQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-29  7:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-29  7:50     ` Philipp Reisner
2022-03-29 12:29       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-03-29 15:44         ` Philipp Reisner
2022-03-29 15:52           ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-30 15:23             ` Philipp Reisner
2022-03-30 18:06               ` Mike Snitzer
2022-03-30 18:24               ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-30 19:31               ` [Drbd-dev] " Kiselev, Oleg
2022-03-30 20:21                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-29 20:01     ` Wolfgang Walter

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