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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Cc: "Kweh, Hock Leong" <hock.leong.kweh@intel.com>,
	"Bryan O'Donoghue" <pure.logic@nexus-software.ie>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Ong, Boon Leong" <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
	"Mok, Tze Siong" <tze.siong.mok@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 13:20:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb94de5b-e359-ab8d-bb9b-52efcad91bc5@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170228121255.GD28416@codeblueprint.co.uk>

On 2017-02-28 13:12, Matt Fleming wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb, at 10:24:41AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>> I just can re-express my frustration that this essential step hasn't
>> been started years ago by whoever designed the extension. Then I bet
>> there would have been constructive feedback on the interface BEFORE its
>> ugliness spread to broader use.
>>
>> Or is there a technical need, in general or on Quark, to have the
>> signature header right before the standard capsule *for the handover* to
>> the firmware? I mean, I would naively put it into another capsule and
>> prepend that to the core so that the existing UEFI API can palate it
>> transparently and cleanly.
> 
> I'm fairly sure this was my first thought when we discussed this
> originally, some years ago now.
> 
> The whole CSH concept is, frankly, stupid. It makes a mockery of
> everything the capsule interface was designed to be.
> 
> I have long been holding out in hope that someone would patch the
> firmware to work around this CSH requirement, something along the
> lines of the double wrapping Jan mentions above. It's not like the
> Quark is the only platform that wants to verify capsules.
> 
> But to my knowledge, that hasn't happened.
> 
> Nevertheless my answer is still the same - someone needs to go and
> update the Quark firmware source to work with the generic capsule
> mechanism.
> 

>From you POV, does this exclude upstream quirk support for already
shipped devices?

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-28 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-15 18:14 [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/capsule: Prepare for loading images with security header Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/capsule: Add support for Quark " Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17  1:30   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-24 16:44     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-15 18:47   ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-15 18:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-15 18:50   ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:59     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-16  3:00       ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2017-02-16  7:29         ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-18 21:48           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-19 13:33             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-20  1:33               ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-20  1:52                 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-03-24 15:18                 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17  0:53         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-17  8:23           ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2017-02-17  9:24             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-28 12:12               ` Matt Fleming
2017-02-28 12:20                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2017-02-28 12:29                   ` Matt Fleming
2017-02-28 13:25                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-28 13:35                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 13:36                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 15:07                           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:09                             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:27                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 16:52                               ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 17:18                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 17:42                                   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-01 14:02                                     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-01 14:55                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  9:51             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-17 10:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17 11:42                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue

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