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From: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 2/9] rcu: Reduce synchronize_rcu() delays when all wait heads are in use
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:16:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbc30c3a-ecd3-4525-9434-307c7769bb4c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7d07e5d-34a0-4874-8e7e-1c576c14c8e6@paulmck-laptop>



On 6/6/2024 12:08 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 02:09:34PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> Le Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 03:23:48PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
>>> From: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
>>>
>>> When all wait heads are in use, which can happen when
>>> rcu_sr_normal_gp_cleanup_work()'s callback processing
>>> is slow, any new synchronize_rcu() user's rcu_synchronize
>>> node's processing is deferred to future GP periods. This
>>> can result in long list of synchronize_rcu() invocations
>>> waiting for full grace period processing, which can delay
>>> freeing of memory. Mitigate this problem by using first
>>> node in the list as wait tail when all wait heads are in use.
>>> While methods to speed up callback processing would be needed
>>> to recover from this situation, allowing new nodes to complete
>>> their grace period can help prevent delays due to a fixed
>>> number of wait head nodes.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>>
>> IIRC we agreed that this patch could be a step too far that
>> made an already not so simple state machine even less simple,
>> breaking the wait_head based flow.
> 
> True, which is why we agreed not to submit it into the v6.10 merge window.
> 
> And I don't recall us saying what merge window to send it to.
> 
>> Should we postpone this change until it is observed that a workqueue
>> not being scheduled for 5 grace periods is a real issue?
> 
> Neeraj, thoughts?  Or, better yet, test results?  ;-)

Yes I agree that we postpone this change until we see it as a real
problem. I had run a test to invoke synchronize_rcu() from all CPUs
on a 96 core system in parallel. I didn't specifically check if this
scenario was hit. Will run RCU torture test with this change.


Thanks
Neeraj


> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-06  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-04 22:23 [PATCH rcu 0/9] Miscellaneous fixes for v6.11 Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 1/9] rcu: Add lockdep_assert_in_rcu_read_lock() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-20 19:38   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-02-20 22:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-20 23:51       ` Jeff Johnson
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 2/9] rcu: Reduce synchronize_rcu() delays when all wait heads are in use Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-05 12:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-05 18:38     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-06  3:46       ` Neeraj Upadhyay [this message]
2024-06-06 16:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-11 10:12           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 3/9] rcu/tree: Reduce wake up for synchronize_rcu() common case Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-05 16:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-05 18:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-06  5:58     ` Neeraj upadhyay
2024-06-06 18:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-07  1:51         ` Neeraj upadhyay
2024-06-10 15:12           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-11 13:46             ` Neeraj upadhyay
2024-06-11 16:17               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 4/9] rcu: Disable interrupts directly in rcu_gp_init() Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 5/9] srcu: Disable interrupts directly in srcu_gp_end() Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 6/9] rcu: Add rcutree.nocb_patience_delay to reduce nohz_full OS jitter Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-10  5:05   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-06-10 15:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 16:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-03 17:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-04 22:18       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-05  0:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 7/9] MAINTAINERS: Add Uladzislau Rezki as RCU maintainer Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 8/9] rcu: Eliminate lockless accesses to rcu_sync->gp_count Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-04 22:23 ` [PATCH rcu 9/9] rcu: Fix rcu_barrier() VS post CPUHP_TEARDOWN_CPU invocation Paul E. McKenney

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