From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, len.brown@intel.com,
tony.luck@intel.com, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
reinette.chatre@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
peterz@infradead.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com,
isaku.yamahata@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:40:13 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc1ca04d94ad45e79c0297719d5ef50a7c33c352.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c90a10763969077826f42be6f492e3a3e062326b.camel@intel.com>
On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 12:58 +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 17:50 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 4/27/22 17:37, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 14:59 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > > In 5 years, if someone takes this code and runs it on Intel hardware
> > > > with memory hotplug, CPU hotplug, NVDIMMs *AND* TDX support, what happens?
> > >
> > > I thought we could document this in the documentation saying that this code can
> > > only work on TDX machines that don't have above capabilities (SPR for now). We
> > > can change the code and the documentation when we add the support of those
> > > features in the future, and update the documentation.
> > >
> > > If 5 years later someone takes this code, he/she should take a look at the
> > > documentation and figure out that he/she should choose a newer kernel if the
> > > machine support those features.
> > >
> > > I'll think about design solutions if above doesn't look good for you.
> >
> > No, it doesn't look good to me.
> >
> > You can't just say:
> >
> > /*
> > * This code will eat puppies if used on systems with hotplug.
> > */
> >
> > and merrily await the puppy bloodbath.
> >
> > If it's not compatible, then you have to *MAKE* it not compatible in a
> > safe, controlled way.
> >
> > > > You can't just ignore the problems because they're not present on one
> > > > version of the hardware.
> >
> > Please, please read this again ^^
>
> OK. I'll think about solutions and come back later.
> >
Hi Dave,
I think we have two approaches to handle memory hotplug interaction with the TDX
module initialization.
The first approach is simple. We just block memory from being added as system
RAM managed by page allocator when the platform supports TDX [1]. It seems we
can add some arch-specific-check to __add_memory_resource() and reject the new
memory resource if platform supports TDX. __add_memory_resource() is called by
both __add_memory() and add_memory_driver_managed() so it prevents from adding
NVDIMM as system RAM and normal ACPI memory hotplug [2].
The second approach is relatively more complicated. Instead of directly
rejecting the new memory resource in __add_memory_resource(), we check whether
the memory resource can be added based on CMR and the TDX module initialization
status. This is feasible as with the latest public P-SEAMLDR spec, we can get
CMR from P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALL[3]. So we can detect P-SEAMLDR and get CMR info
during kernel boots. And in __add_memory_resource() we do below check:
tdx_init_disable(); /*similar to cpu_hotplug_disable() */
if (tdx_module_initialized())
// reject memory hotplug
else if (new_memory_resource NOT in CMRs)
// reject memory hotplug
else
allow memory hotplug
tdx_init_enable(); /*similar to cpu_hotplug_enable() */
tdx_init_disable() temporarily disables TDX module initialization by trying to
grab the mutex. If the TDX module initialization is already on going, then it
waits until it completes.
This should work better for future platforms, but would requires non-trivial
more code as we need to add VMXON/VMXOFF support to the core-kernel to detect
CMR using SEAMCALL. A side advantage is with VMXON in core-kernel we can
shutdown the TDX module in kexec().
But for this series I think the second approach is overkill and we can choose to
use the first simple approach?
Any suggestions?
[1] Platform supports TDX means SEAMRR is enabled, and there are at least 2 TDX
keyIDs. Or we can just check SEAMRR is enabled, as in practice a SEAMRR is
enabled means the machine is TDX-capable, and for now a TDX-capable machine
doesn't support ACPI memory hotplug.
[2] It prevents adding legacy PMEM as system RAM too but I think it's fine. If
user wants legacy PMEM then it is unlikely user will add it back and use as
system RAM. User is unlikely to use legacy PMEM as TD guest memory directly as
TD guests is likely to use a new memfd backend which allows private page not
accessible from usrspace, so in this way we can exclude legacy PMEM from TDMRs.
[3] Please refer to SEAMLDR.SEAMINFO SEAMCALL in latest P-SEAMLDR spec:
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/develop/external/us/en/documents-tps/intel-tdx-seamldr-interface-specification.pdf
> > >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-29 1:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-06 4:49 [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect SEAM Kai Huang
2022-04-18 22:29 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-18 22:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-19 3:38 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:21 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:12 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 23:28 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:49 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 0:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 0:44 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:22 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 22:39 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX private KeyIDs Kai Huang
2022-04-19 5:39 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19 9:41 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-19 5:42 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19 10:07 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Implement the SEAMCALL base function Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:07 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 4:16 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20 7:29 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 10:39 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:37 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:29 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton for detecting and initializing TDX on demand Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:53 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 4:37 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20 5:21 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-20 14:30 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:35 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:53 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 0:43 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:49 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 0:00 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:27 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:44 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 23:53 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 0:11 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 0:26 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 0:59 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect P-SEAMLDR and TDX module Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:56 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 0:01 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:24 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 21:30 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] x86/virt/tdx: Shut down TDX module in case of error Kai Huang
2022-04-23 15:39 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:41 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 1:48 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26 2:12 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 0:06 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 16:19 ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:51 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do TDX module global initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-20 22:27 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:37 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do logical-cpu scope TDX module initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-24 1:27 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:55 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and convertible memory Kai Huang
2022-04-25 2:58 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26 0:05 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:15 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 0:15 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:06 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:14 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 5:04 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 4:47 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 4:57 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 16:00 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 22:30 ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:56 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to coveret all system RAM as TDX memory Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:48 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:38 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:24 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 0:53 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 1:07 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 1:35 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 3:40 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 3:55 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] x86/virt/tdx: Choose to use " Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:55 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:39 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 15:54 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 7:32 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] x86/virt/tdx: Create TDMRs to cover all system RAM Kai Huang
2022-04-28 16:22 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 7:24 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 13:52 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:12 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 7:46 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:20 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 14:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 17:46 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 18:32 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 5:59 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-02 14:17 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 21:55 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] x86/virt/tdx: Set up reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reserve TDX module global KeyID Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with TDMRs and " Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] x86: Flush cache of TDX private memory during kexec() Kai Huang
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add kernel command line to opt-in TDX host support Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:25 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06 4:49 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for " Kai Huang
2022-04-14 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 1:15 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 21:59 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 0:37 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 0:50 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 0:58 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 1:40 ` Kai Huang [this message]
2022-04-29 3:04 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 5:35 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-03 23:59 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04 0:25 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-04 1:15 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05 9:54 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05 13:51 ` Dan Williams
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