From: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/idle: Prevent stopping the tick when there is no cpuidle driver
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:40:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe5038e1-e06b-41dd-9584-cbd992bef1fe@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mstaioy6.ffs@tglx>
Hello Thomas,
On 1/12/24 15:52, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12 2024 at 14:39, Pierre Gondois wrote:
>> On 1/12/24 11:56, Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
>>> Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com> writes:
>>>> I agree that the absence of cpuidle driver prevents from reaching deep
>>>> idle states. FWIU, there is however still benefits in stopping the tick
>>>> on such platform.
>>>
>>> What's the benefit?
>>
>> I did the following test:
>> - on an arm64 Juno-r2 platform (2 big A-72 and 4 little A-53 CPUs)
>> - booting with 'cpuidle.off=1'
>> - using the energy counters of the platforms
>> (the counters measure energy for the whole cluster of big/little CPUs)
>> - letting the platform idling during 10s
>>
>> So the energy consumption would be up:
>> - ~6% for the big CPUs
>> - ~10% for the litte CPUs
>
> Fair enough, but what's the actual usecase?
>
> NOHZ w/o cpuidle driver seems a rather academic exercise to me.
I thought Anna-Maria had a use-case for this.
I just wanted to point out that this patch could potentially
increase the energy consumption for her use-case, nothing more,
Regards,
Pierre
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-15 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-15 13:05 [PATCH] sched/idle: Prevent stopping the tick when there is no cpuidle driver Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-21 15:22 ` Pierre Gondois
2024-01-09 16:24 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-10 10:20 ` Pierre Gondois
2024-01-12 10:56 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-12 13:39 ` Pierre Gondois
2024-01-12 14:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-01-15 12:40 ` Pierre Gondois [this message]
2024-01-15 13:10 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 13:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-15 15:41 ` Pierre Gondois
2024-01-22 10:22 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
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