From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
Yian Chen <yian.chen@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Ravi Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Paul Lai <paul.c.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] x86/cpu: Enumerate LASS CPUID and CR4 bits
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:13:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <feab0dd1-2030-e31c-cbbf-9857c46d0c1c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d935618-8f84-2d6e-4f4c-9d38eec2ba67@intel.com>
On 1/10/23 12:14, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> On 1/9/2023 9:51 PM, Yian Chen wrote:
>> LASS (Linear Address Space Separation) is a CPU feature to
>> prevent speculative address access in user/kernel mode.
>
> Would it be better to say?
>
> LASS (Linear Address Space Separation) is a security feature that
> intends to prevent unintentional speculative address access across
> user/kernel mode.
It's more than that, though. The spec actually says this pretty nicely:
> Linear-address space separation (LASS) is an independent mechanism
> that enforces the same mode-based protections as paging but without
> traversing the paging structures. Because the protections enforced by
> LASS are applied before paging, “probes” by malicious software will
> provide no paging-based timing information
So, it's not _just_ that it can prevent some speculative accesses. It
completely short-circuits paging itself and *ALL* of the baggage that
goes along with paging.
The TLB, mid-level caches, the page walker itself, the data cache
impact... all of it. Gone.
*THAT* is the important part here, IMNHO.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-11 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-10 5:51 [PATCH 0/7] Enable LASS (Linear Address space Separation) Yian Chen
2023-01-10 5:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/cpu: Enumerate LASS CPUID and CR4 bits Yian Chen
2023-01-10 20:14 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-11 0:13 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-01-11 23:23 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 0:06 ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-12 0:15 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-11 19:21 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-10 5:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86: Add CONFIG option X86_LASS Yian Chen
2023-01-10 21:05 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12 0:13 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-10 5:52 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86/cpu: Disable kernel LASS when patching kernel alternatives Yian Chen
2023-01-10 21:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-11 1:01 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-11 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-10 22:41 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12 0:27 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 0:37 ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-12 18:36 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 18:48 ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-01 2:25 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-02-01 18:20 ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-01 2:10 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10 5:52 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86/vsyscall: Setup vsyscall to compromise LASS protection Yian Chen
2023-01-11 0:34 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12 1:43 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 2:49 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-21 4:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-01-10 5:52 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/cpu: Enable LASS (Linear Address Space Separation) Yian Chen
2023-01-11 22:22 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12 17:56 ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 18:17 ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-13 1:17 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-13 19:39 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10 5:52 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/cpu: Set LASS as pinning sensitive CR4 bit Yian Chen
2023-01-10 5:52 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/kvm: Expose LASS feature to VM guest Yian Chen
2023-02-07 3:21 ` Wang, Lei
2023-02-09 17:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-10 19:48 ` [PATCH 0/7] Enable LASS (Linear Address space Separation) Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10 22:57 ` Dave Hansen
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