From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
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suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: debugging late_initcall_sync measurements
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 08:02:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff28c6dcb60c357c752724927addaa8c4fd3bf2c.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhRE2kRr1fdDf6xgQgpSrtvqtP8Vy9LVGJhDZFUbzLKGmQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 2026-05-03 at 12:46 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> Regardless, assuming you always want IMA to leverage a TPMs when they
> exist, your reply suggests that using an initcall based IMA init
> scheme, even a late-sync initcall, may not be sufficient because
> deferred TPM initialization could happen later, yes?
Well yeah. The TPM could be configured as a module, but that scenario is not of
interest. That's way too late. The case being addressed in this patch set is
when the TPM driver tries to initialize at device_initcall, returns
EPROBE_DEFER, and is retried at deferred_probe_initcall (late_initcall). Since
ordering within an initcall is not supported, this patch attempts to initialize
IMA at late_initcall and similarly retries, in this case, at late_initcall_sync.
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-04 12:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-24 13:23 [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] Fix IMA + TPM initialisation ordering issue Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] lsm: Allow LSMs to register for late_initcall_sync init Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/4] security: ima: call ima_init() again at late_initcall_sync for defered TPM Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:55 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-24 20:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-25 9:10 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/4] Revert "tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: try to probe tpm_crb_ffa when it's built-in" Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:10 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/4] Revert "firmware: arm_ffa: Change initcall level of ffa_init() to rootfs_initcall" Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:09 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-25 14:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-04-29 20:01 ` [PATCH] ima: debugging late_initcall_sync measurements Mimi Zohar
2026-04-30 9:48 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-30 21:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-30 22:35 ` Paul Moore
2026-05-01 1:51 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-03 16:46 ` Paul Moore
2026-05-04 12:02 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-05-04 20:51 ` Paul Moore
2026-05-01 16:52 ` David Safford
2026-05-03 11:36 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-03 12:42 ` Mimi Zohar
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