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From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [PATCH] Time-based RFC 4122 UUID generator
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:58:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fhvoqu$u6l$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKCECCIFAC.davids@webmaster.com

David Schwartz wrote:
> Any UUID generator that can produce duplicate UUIDs with probability
> significantly less than purely random UUIDs is so badly broken that it
> should not ever be used. Anyone who finds such a UUID generator should
> immediately either fix it or throw it on the junk heap. 

That's what my patch is about: Solve the problem at it's root.

> Anyone who 
> knowingly uses such a UUID generator should be publically shamed.

The problem is that on Linux there is currently no time-based UUID generator
which really solves the problem.
Good (bad?) thing is: Other UNIXes aren't better either.

> Rather than (or at the very least, in addition to) adding a new UUID
> generator, let's fix the one(s) we have.

Some things aren't fixable with userspace only. At least _some_ kind of help
is needed from the kernel.
Why not providing one single working version directly from the kernel and
dropping others you can't cleanly fix anyway ?

Helge


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-20 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-18 19:38 [PATCH] Time-based RFC 4122 UUID generator Helge Deller
2007-11-18 21:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-18 21:34   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-18 21:43     ` Helge Deller
2007-11-19 21:56       ` David Schwartz
2007-11-19 22:58         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-20  6:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-20 22:58         ` Helge Deller [this message]
2007-11-21  0:20           ` Alan Cox
2007-11-18 21:40   ` Helge Deller
2007-11-20  6:31     ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-20 21:59       ` Helge Deller
2007-11-20 22:55         ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-20 23:11           ` Helge Deller
2007-11-20 23:34             ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-20 23:00         ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-20 23:30           ` Helge Deller
2007-12-10  5:36           ` [e2fsprogs PATCH] Userspace solution to time-based UUID without duplicates Theodore Tso
2007-12-16 21:53             ` Helge Deller
2007-12-17  0:07               ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-20  6:15 ` [PATCH] Time-based RFC 4122 UUID generator Andrew Morton
2007-11-20 22:40   ` Helge Deller

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