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From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
To: Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	ricknu-0@student.ltu.se, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:00:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <je4pws1ofb.fsf@sykes.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D36E8B.4040705@sgi.com> (Jes Sorensen's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:58:03 +0200")

Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com> writes:

> Alan Cox wrote:
>> Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 16:35 +0200, ysgrifennodd Jes Sorensen:
>>> The proposed patch makes it u1 - if we end up with arch specific
>>> defines, as the patch is proposing, developers won't know for sure what
>>> the size is and will get alignment wrong. That is not fine.
>>
>> The _Bool type is up to gcc implementation details.
>
> Which is even worse :(

It's part of the ABI, just like any other C type.

>>> If we really have to introduce a bool type, at least it has to be the
>>> same size on all 32 bit archs and the same size on all 64 bit archs.
>>
>> You don't use bool for talking to hardware, you use it for the most
>> efficient compiler behaviour when working with true/false values.
>
> Thats the problem, people will start putting them into structs, and
> voila all alignment predictability has gone out the window.

Just like trying to predict the alignment of any other C type.

Andreas.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-04 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-19 20:38 [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean ricknu-0
2006-07-19 21:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-19 23:17   ` ricknu-0
2006-07-20  0:13     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-20  3:04       ` Vadim Lobanov
2006-07-20  3:53         ` Shorty Porty
2006-07-20  3:59           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-07-20  8:07           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-04 14:03   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 14:42     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 14:35       ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 15:51         ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 15:58           ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 16:00             ` Andreas Schwab [this message]
2006-08-04 16:08               ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 16:16                 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-08-04 16:26                   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 16:57                     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-08-04 18:47                       ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 18:51                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-04 18:58                           ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 19:04                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-06  9:25                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-06  9:48                     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-08-06  9:31                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-06 15:31                   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-04 16:30             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 16:20               ` Jes Sorensen
2006-07-19 21:20 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-07-19 22:47   ` ricknu-0
2006-07-19 23:52     ` Peter Williams
2006-07-20  0:08       ` ricknu-0
2006-07-20  8:09   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-21  1:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 2) ricknu-0
2006-07-21  1:34   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21  8:55     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-21 21:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-25 19:04         ` Roman Kononov
2006-07-21 22:31     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-23 19:56     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-21 14:23   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-21 18:27     ` Michael Buesch
2006-07-21 21:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21 22:11         ` ricknu-0
2006-07-22  8:56       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-21 23:08 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 3) ricknu-0
2006-07-21 23:27 ` ricknu-0
2006-07-22  5:40   ` Stefan Richter
2006-07-22 17:08     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-22 18:08       ` Stefan Richter
2006-07-22  8:58   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-22 17:19     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-22  9:55   ` Lars Gullik Bjønnes
2006-07-23 15:43     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-23 15:49 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 4) ricknu-0
2006-07-23 16:08   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-23 19:36     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-23 20:26       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23 20:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23 21:17       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-23 21:44         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-24  8:55     ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-23 16:13   ` Michael Buesch
2006-07-23 19:46     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-23 20:24   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23 21:13   ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-25 23:22 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 5) ricknu-0
2006-07-26  0:42   ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-26 20:28 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 6) ricknu-0
2006-07-27  1:06   ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-27  2:10     ` Josef Sipek
2006-07-27  3:51       ` ricknu-0
2006-07-27  4:40         ` Josef Sipek
2006-07-27  4:00       ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-27  3:30     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-28 16:57     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-27  2:48   ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-07-27  3:22     ` ricknu-0
2006-07-27  5:27     ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-27  6:51       ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-27 19:55       ` ricknu-0
2006-07-27 20:13         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-28  1:29           ` ricknu-0
2006-07-28  1:56             ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-28 12:50           ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 20:24             ` Lars Noschinski
2006-07-28 21:31               ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-27 19:46 ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean (version 7) ricknu-0
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2006-08-04 20:51                     ` [RFC][PATCH] A generic boolean Bodo Eggert

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