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From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390 (7/13): gcc 3.3 adaptions.
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:39:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jevfz84bee.fsf@sykes.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302250712110.10210-100000@home.transmeta.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:27:26 -0800 (PST)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:

|> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Andreas Schwab wrote:
|> > |> 
|> > |> The point is that the compiler should see that the run-time value of i is 
|> > |> _obviously_never_negative_ and as such the warning is total and utter 
|> > |> crap.
|> > 
|> > This requires a complete analysis of the loop body, which means that the
|> > warning must be moved down from the front end (the common type of the
|> > operands only depends on the type of the operands, not of any current
|> > value of the expressions).
|> 
|> So? Gcc does that anyway. _Any_ good compiler has to.

But the point is that determining the common type does not require _any_
kind of data flow analysis, and this is the place where the unsigned
warning is generated.

|> Trivial example:
|> 
|> 	int x[2][2];
|> 
|> 	int main(int argc, char **argv)
|> 	{
|> 		return x[1][-1];
|> 	}
|> 
|> 
|> the above is actually a well-defined C program, and 100%
|> standards-conforming ("strictly conforming").

This isn't as trivial as it seems.  Look in comp.std.c for recent
discussions on this topic (out-of-array references).

Andreas.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-25 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-24 18:10 [PATCH] s390 (7/13): gcc 3.3 adaptions Martin Schwidefsky
2003-02-24 19:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-02-24 21:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-24 21:27     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-24 21:33     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-02-24 21:35     ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-24 21:53       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-24 22:07         ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-24 22:21           ` Jörn Engel
2003-02-24 22:31             ` Jörn Engel
2003-02-25 12:34             ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-24 22:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25  0:20             ` Alan Cox
2003-02-24 23:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25  0:40                 ` Alan Cox
2003-02-24 23:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25  5:24             ` Chris Wedgwood
2003-02-25 12:25               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-25 12:40             ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-25 15:27               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25 15:39                 ` Andreas Schwab [this message]
2003-02-25 16:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25 16:15                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-25 16:26                     ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-25 16:17                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-02-24 22:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-24 22:39       ` Jakub Jelinek
2003-02-24 23:52         ` John Alvord
2003-02-24 21:38     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-03-01  3:12     ` Richard Henderson
     [not found] <20030224195008$59ef@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030224195008$40bd@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-02-24 20:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-02-24 20:49     ` Richard B. Johnson

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