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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
	Chris Redpath <chrid.redpath@arm.com>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/uclamp: Protect uclamp fast path code with static key
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:52:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjpn9udh2d.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200619172524.y66a4hz6g6hr3thr@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com>


On 19/06/20 18:25, Qais Yousef wrote:
> On 06/19/20 16:17, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > But here this is
>> > just extra churn.
>> >
>> > If an imbalance has happend this means either:
>> >
>> >       1. enqueue/dequeue_task() is imablanced itself
>> >       2. uclamp_update_active() calls dec without inc.
>> >
>> > If 1 happened we have more reasons to be worried about. For 2 the function
>> > takes task_rq_lock() and does dec/inc in obvious way.
>> >
>>
>> True. I won't argue over the feasibility of the scenarios we are currently
>> aware of, my point was that if they do happen, it's nice to have debug
>> helps in the right places as the final breakage can happen much further
>> downstream.
>>
>> FWIW I don't like the diff I suggested at all, but if we can come up with a
>> cleverer scheme I think we should do it, as per the above.
>
> There's the fact as well that this whole thing is to deal with potentially
> avoid doing anything that is stricly not necessary in the fast path.
>
> keep in mind that my patch of introducing the sysctl is not accepted yet
> because it introduces such thing, but in that case it's not a debug only
> feature. CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG do get enabled by distros because it exports a lot
> of useful info.

Sigh, true, but they really shouldn't. The whole point of having
SCHED_WARN_ON() is that it's a no-op on !SCHED_DEBUG kernels, which should
be any "production" kernel :(

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-18 19:55 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Optionally skip uclamp logic in fast path Qais Yousef
2020-06-18 19:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Fix initialization of strut uclamp_rq Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 10:36   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 17:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-19 17:39     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 18:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-19 18:42         ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-22 10:30           ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-18 19:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/uclamp: Protect uclamp fast path code with static key Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 10:36   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 11:57     ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-19 12:17       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 12:55       ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 14:51       ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 12:51     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 13:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-06-19 13:25       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 14:13         ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 15:17           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 17:25             ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-19 18:52               ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-06-19 19:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-19 10:39   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-19 17:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-19 17:53     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-22  9:06 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched: Optionally skip uclamp logic in fast path Lukasz Luba

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