From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
qais.yousef@arm.com, swood@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
bristot@redhat.com, vincent.donnefort@arm.com, tj@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 15/17] sched: Fix migrate_disable() vs rt/dl balancing
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 12:20:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjv9fnmwhg.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201005150922.458081448@infradead.org>
On 05/10/20 15:57, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> In order to minimize the interference of migrate_disable() on lower
> priority tasks, which can be deprived of runtime due to being stuck
> below a higher priority task. Teach the RT/DL balancers to push away
> these higher priority tasks when a lower priority task gets selected
> to run on a freshly demoted CPU (pull).
>
> This adds migration interference to the higher priority task, but
> restores bandwidth to system that would otherwise be irrevocably lost.
> Without this it would be possible to have all tasks on the system
> stuck on a single CPU, each task preempted in a migrate_disable()
> section with a single high priority task running.
>
> This way we can still approximate running the M highest priority tasks
> on the system.
>
Ah, so IIUC that's the important bit that makes it we can't just say go
through the pushable_tasks list and skip migrate_disable() tasks.
Once the highest-prio task exits its migrate_disable() region, your patch
pushes it away. If we ended up with a single busy CPU, it'll spread the
tasks around one migrate_enable() at a time.
That time where the top task is migrate_disable() is still a crappy time,
and as you pointed out earlier today if it is a genuine pcpu task then the
whole thing is -EBORKED...
An alternative I could see would be to prevent those piles from forming
altogether, say by issuing a similar push_cpu_stop() on migrate_disable()
if the next pushable task is already migrate_disable(); but that's a
proactive approach whereas yours is reactive, so I'm pretty sure that's
bound to perform worse.
> Migrating the top task away is (ofcourse) still subject to
> migrate_disable() too, which means the lower task is subject to an
> interference equivalent to the worst case migrate_disable() section.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-06 11:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-05 14:57 [PATCH -v2 00/17] sched: Migrate disable support Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 01/17] stop_machine: Add function and caller debug info Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 02/17] sched: Fix balance_callback() Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 03/17] sched/hotplug: Ensure only per-cpu kthreads run during hotplug Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 04/17] sched/core: Wait for tasks being pushed away on hotplug Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 05/17] workqueue: Manually break affinity " Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 16:31 ` Tejun Heo
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 06/17] sched/hotplug: Consolidate task migration on CPU unplug Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 07/17] sched: Fix hotplug vs CPU bandwidth control Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 12:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-06 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-09 20:41 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-12 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-12 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-12 14:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 08/17] sched: Massage set_cpus_allowed() Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 11:20 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 09/17] sched: Add migrate_disable() Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 11:20 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 10/17] sched: Fix migrate_disable() vs set_cpus_allowed_ptr() Peter Zijlstra
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2020-10-12 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2020-10-13 13:20 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 11/17] sched/core: Make migrate disable and CPU hotplug cooperative Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 12/17] sched,rt: Use cpumask_any*_distribute() Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 14:09 ` Juri Lelli
2020-10-06 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 15:55 ` Qais Yousef
2020-10-07 7:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 13/17] sched,rt: Use the full cpumask for balancing Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 14/17] sched, lockdep: Annotate ->pi_lock recursion Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 15/17] sched: Fix migrate_disable() vs rt/dl balancing Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 7:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-06 13:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 11:20 ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-10-06 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-06 14:37 ` Juri Lelli
2020-10-06 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-07 5:29 ` Juri Lelli
2020-10-06 16:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-07 19:22 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-07 21:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-07 22:32 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-08 10:48 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-12 9:56 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-12 11:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-12 12:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 16/17] sched/proc: Print accurate cpumask vs migrate_disable() Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 14:57 ` [PATCH -v2 17/17] sched: Add migrate_disable() tracepoints Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched: Deny self-issued __set_cpus_allowed_ptr() when migrate_disable() Valentin Schneider
2020-10-13 14:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-13 14:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-15 9:14 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-13 14:22 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-11 8:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2020-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Comment affine_move_task() Valentin Schneider
2020-11-11 8:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
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