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From: Alex Elsayed <eternaleye@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUERY] lguest64
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:04:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kteepb$8qf$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CALkWK0=T6aqpqHKf=601EPc9+4cvgJ053xBU2HxmJuf2dVXoxw@mail.gmail.com

Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:

> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> UML, lguest and Xen were done before the x86 architecture supported
>> hardware virtualization.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> but on KVM-enabled hardware KVM seems
>> like the better option (and is indeed what libguestfs uses.)
> 
> While we're still on the topic, I'd like a few clarifications. From
> your reply, I got the impression that KVM the only mechanism for
> non-pvops virtualization.  This seems quite contrary to what I read on
> lwn about ARM virtualization [1]. In short, ARM provides a "hypervisor
> mode", and the article says
> 
>   "the virtualization model provided by ARM fits the Xen
> hypervisor-based virtualization better than KVM's kernel-based model"
> 
> The Xen people call this "ARM PVH" (as opposed to ARM PV, which does
> not utilize hardware extensions) [2]. Although I wasn't able to find
> much information about the hardware aspect, what ARM provides seems to
> be quite different from VT-x and AMD-V. I'm also confused about what
> virt/kvm/arm is.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1]: http://lwn.net/Articles/513940/
> [2]: http://www.xenproject.org/developers/teams/arm-hypervisor.html

ARM's virtualization extensions may be a more *natural* match to Xen's 
semantics and architecture, but that doesn't mean that KVM can't use it. LWN 
explains the details far better than I can: https://lwn.net/Articles/557132/

virt/kvm/arm is an implementation of KVM (the API) that takes advantage of 
ARM's virtualization extensions.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-01 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19  9:06 [QUERY] lguest64 Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-07-19 17:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-19 17:42   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-07-19 18:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-19 20:36       ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-01 17:22       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-01 13:04         ` Alex Elsayed [this message]
2013-07-23  1:28   ` Rusty Russell
2013-07-31  9:39     ` Mike Rapoport
2013-07-31 12:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-31 13:07         ` Mike Rapoport
2013-07-31 13:19           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-31 14:32             ` Mike Rapoport
2013-08-01  2:12           ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-02 14:27             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-31 13:17         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-31 13:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-02 19:09             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-04 12:37               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-05 16:50                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-05 16:59                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 17:16                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-31 15:31       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-01  7:18         ` Mike Rapoport
2013-08-08 19:15       ` Richard W.M. Jones

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