From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Ashwin Ganti <ashwin.ganti@gmail.com>,
rsc@swtch.com, ericvh@gmail.com,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jt.beard@gmail.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morgan <morgan@kernel.org>,
oleg@us.ibm.com, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:01:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11ve4wwzk.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <n2s13426df11004240925id540ed94mc2ebafada0099ec4@mail.gmail.com> (ron minnich's message of "Sat\, 24 Apr 2010 09\:25\:08 -0700")
ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Serge E. Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> An fs actually seems overkill for two write-only files for
>> process-related information. Would these actually be candidates
>> for new /proc files?
>>
>> /proc/grantcred - replaces /dev/caphash, for privileged
>> tasks to tell the kernel about new setuid
>> capabilities
>> /proc/self/usecred - replaces /dev/capuse for unprivileged
>> tasks to make use of a setuid capability
>
> An fs is fine.
>
> To relate this to Plan 9, where it all began, might be useful. There's
> no equivalent in Plan 9 to Linux/Unix devices of the major/minor
> number etc. variety. In-kernel drivers and out-of-kernel servers both
> end up providing the services (i.e. file name spaces) that we see in a
> Linux file system. So the Plan 9 driver for the capability device
> really does match closely in function and interface to a Linux
> kernel-based file system.
>
> Hence, making devcap a file system is entirely appropriate, because it
> best fits the way it works in Plan 9: a kernel driver that provides
> two files.
>
> It's pretty easy to write a Linux VFS anyway, so it makes sense from
> that point of view.
>
> Eric, that was a great suggestion.
A fs provides user space policy control of naming. I.e. where the two files go.
That can also be a very big deal. Especially when files are writable.
You have no idea how much I am frustrated by sysfs right now, because
it does not provide userspace policy control and instead mandates a
sometimes inappropriate naming convention.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-24 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-21 1:27 [PATCH 1/3] p9auth: split core function out of some set*{u,g}id functions Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 1:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] p9auth: add CAP_GRANT_ID to authorize use of /dev/caphash Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 2:54 ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 1:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 3:04 ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 3:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 4:18 ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21 13:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 14:44 ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21 4:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-21 13:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24 3:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24 16:25 ` ron minnich
2010-04-24 18:01 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2010-04-25 3:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 9:27 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-21 13:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 14:19 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-21 15:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 19:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-21 20:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-22 4:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-04-22 14:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 13:55 ` Eric Paris
2010-04-21 14:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 10:49 ` David Howells
2010-04-21 13:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] p9auth: split core function out of some set*{u,g}id functions David Howells
2010-04-21 13:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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