From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Borislav Petkov <petkovbb@googlemail.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected (was: Re: Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas ...)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:34:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11victac1.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912301259220.11961@localhost.localdomain> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Wed\, 30 Dec 2009 13\:10\:51 -0800 \(PST\)")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> We've seen it several times (yes, mostly with drm, but it's been seen with
> others too), and it's very annoying. It can be fixed by having very
> careful readdir implementations, but I really would blame sysfs in
> particular for having a very annoying lock reversal issue when used
> reasonably.
Maybe. The mnmap_sem has some interesting issues all of it's own.
What reasonable thing is the drm doing that is causing problems?
> So the optimal situation would be for sysfs to not have that annoying lock
> dependency, and it would really have to be sysfs_readdir() that drops the
> sysfs_mutex around the filldir call (and that obviously implies having to
> re-validate and be really careful).
>
> Added Eric and Greg to the cc, in case the sysfs people want to solve it.
There are scalability reasons for dropping the sysfs_mutex in sysfs_readdir
and I have some tenative patches for that. I will take a look after I
come back from the holidays, in a couple of days. I don't understand
the issue as described.
> And yes, one option would be to just fix drm - by avoiding calling any
> sysfs functions while holding the mmap_lock (either in the mmap callback
> or the page fault paths). However, as mentioned, I really do think that
> the blame can be laid on sysfs for trying to be a nice generic interface,
> but having a damn inconvenient locking model.
Could be. I have simplified the sysfs locking quite a bit this last
round. I don't know if there is much more than corner cases left to
improve.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-30 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-24 22:00 Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas Linus Torvalds
2009-12-25 10:27 ` -tip: origin tree boot crash Ingo Molnar
2009-12-25 19:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-26 20:19 ` Len Brown
2009-12-26 20:17 ` Len Brown
2009-12-27 4:20 ` Len Brown
2009-12-28 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-28 12:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-28 15:02 ` Paul Rolland
2009-12-28 16:15 ` Paul Rolland
2009-12-28 16:53 ` Paul Rolland
2009-12-28 20:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-30 6:14 ` Len Brown
2009-12-30 7:13 ` Paul Rolland
2009-12-30 6:19 ` [PATCH] wmi: check find_guid() return value to prevent oops Len Brown
2009-12-30 6:21 ` [PATCH] dell-wmi: sys_init_module: 'dell_wmi'->init suspiciously returned 21, it should follow 0/-E convention Len Brown
2009-12-25 13:10 ` Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Blank screen for Intel KMS Miguel Calleja
2009-12-29 9:50 ` Miguel Calleja
2009-12-29 14:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-25 20:00 ` Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas Borislav Petkov
2009-12-25 21:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-12-26 6:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-26 8:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-12-26 9:36 ` EHCI resume sysfs duplicates (was: Re: Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas ...) Borislav Petkov
2009-12-26 9:45 ` drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected " Borislav Petkov
2009-12-28 0:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-30 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-30 21:34 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-12-30 22:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-31 8:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-31 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-01 13:58 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Cache the last sysfs_dirent to improve readdir scalability Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-01 15:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-01-01 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-01 22:43 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Cache the last sysfs_dirent to improve readdir scalability v2 Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-01 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-02 5:59 ` Greg KH
2010-01-02 15:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-01-01 15:16 ` drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected (was: Re: Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas ...) Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-02 2:59 ` drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected Tejun Heo
2010-01-02 21:37 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Add lockdep annotations for the sysfs active reference Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-03 0:02 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-17 16:26 ` Ming Lei
2010-01-17 17:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-17 18:03 ` Dominik Brodowski
2010-01-02 21:49 ` drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-03 0:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-03 2:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-03 5:01 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-03 5:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-03 6:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-03 7:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-03 10:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-03 11:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-04 19:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-04 18:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-04 19:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-01-04 21:12 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-04 23:09 ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-31 8:40 ` drm_vm.c:drm_mmap: possible circular locking dependency detected (was: Re: Linux 2.6.33-rc2 - Merry Christmas ...) Eric W. Biederman
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