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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure=2Ehelp=2E?=
Date: 22 Dec 2001 00:41:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11yhnsnvc.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112212050560.24550-100000@shell1.aracnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112212050560.24550-100000@shell1.aracnet.com>

"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com> writes:

> On 21 Dec 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> > > Finally, Farhenheit units are smaller so that they make more convenient
> > > divisions: Eg.
> >
> > Bullsh*t.  They seem more natural to you because you're more used to
> > them.  Anyone who hasn't grown up on the system think that Fahrenheit
> > is the ultimate in lunacy.
> 
> Fahrenheit units were developed by a different process than Celsius, but
> they are both "natural". The Celsius scale is 0 = freezing point of
> water and 100 = boiling point of water. The Fahrenheit scale was
> developed less precisely -- 0 is approximately the freezing point of
> human blood, IIRC, and 100 is approximately body temperature (Fahrenheit
> may have had a fever :)).

32 Fahrenheit is the freezing point of water.
32 + 180 is the boiling point of water.
To avoid negatives an extra 32 degrees were added.
And we measure it in degrees because the designer of Fahrenheit was
thinking about how angles were measured when he designed the system.

Now measuring Celsius is in degrees is the cute one.

As for other topics in this thread.
12 is a nicer base than 10 simply because it has more factors.

And the US officially is on the metric system.  However usage for
common things hasn't changed over.  And no one has had the guts to
have a flag day, and kick out.

As for all of the mebibyte versus megabyte stuff.  While change is
awkward it seems much more comfortable to me if we change the expanded
for first.  And then put in the abbreviations.  Otherwise everyone
will think megabyte and write MiB, which helps little.

Thinking a megabyte is 1000000 bytes and a mebibyte is 1048576 bytes
is almost sane.  Of course the only way to be really clear would be to
have another term for a decimal megabyte, and just drop the old term
with it's nasty baggage.  Since we don't have that the problem will
continue on.  But having two terms at least lets us be precise.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-22  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-21 19:55 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Per Jessen
     [not found] ` <by>
2001-12-22  1:48 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  4:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22  4:49     ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  7:57     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 18:22       ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 19:54         ` Derek Fawcus
2001-12-22  2:11 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  4:44   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22  4:55     ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-22  7:41       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-12-22 15:56     ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB =?iso-8859-1?q?in Configure=2Ehelp=2E?= J.A. Magallon
2002-01-08 21:24       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 21:29         ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-08 22:15           ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 23:03         ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-08 22:59       ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB =?iso-8859-1?q?in Configure=2Ehelp=2E?= Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  5:29   ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Ryan Cumming
2001-12-22  5:53     ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 22:41     ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in?Configure.help Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-22 10:53   ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-12-22 11:12     ` temperatures rpjday
2002-01-02 18:02   ` [OT] Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Jonathan Amery

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