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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
Cc: suparna@in.ibm.com, Kenneth Sumrall <ken@mvista.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Kexec, DMA, and SMP
Date: 12 Feb 2003 07:51:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m13cmty2kq.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E4A578C.7000302@mvista.com>

Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> |Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com> writes:
> |
> |>
> |>You don't understand.  You don't *want* to set aside a block of memory that's
> |>reserved for DMA.  You want to be able to DMA directly into any user address.
> |>Consider demand paging.  The performance would suck if you DMA into some
> |>fixed region then copied to the user address.  Plus you then have another
> |>resource you have to manage in the kernel.  And you still have to change all
> |>the drivers, buffer management, etc. to add a flag that says "I'm going to use
> 
> |>this for DMA" to allocations.  You might as well add the quiesce function,
> it's
> 
> |>probably easier to do.  And it doesn't help if you DMA to static memory
> |>addresses.
> |>
> |>I, too, would like a simpler solution.  I just don't think this is it.
> |
> |
> |You have it backwards.  It is not about reserving a block of memory
> |for DMA.  It is about reserving a block of memory to not do DMA in.
> |Something like 4MB or so.  |
> |The idea is not to let the original kernel touch the reserved block at all.
> |We just put the kernel that kexec will start in that block of memory.
> |
> |Eric
> |
> Ah, it makes much more sense now.  Thank you.  I still don't think it's as easy
> as you think, though.
> Because there's no designation on most memory allocations to give you this
> information.  There's
> GFP_DMA, but according to the docs that's just for x86 ISA DMA devices.  You
> would
> have to hunt down all the memory allocations, figure out of they are DMA targets
> 
> or not, and add a
> flag for that.  I still say it's easier to just add the function to the drivers.

It is trivial if you don't let alloc_pages give the memory to anyone for
any purpose.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-12 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3E448745.9040707@mvista.com>
     [not found] ` <m1isvuzjj2.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
2003-02-08 20:18   ` Kexec, DMA, and SMP Corey Minyard
2003-02-09 18:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-10 11:14       ` Kexec on 2.5.59 problems ? Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 17:09         ` [Fastboot] " Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-10 18:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11  7:21             ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 17:04               ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-11 23:46                 ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-12  4:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-12 22:31                     ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-13  9:50                       ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-13 15:10                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-18 10:59                           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-18 15:06                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-10 12:12       ` Kexec, DMA, and SMP Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 13:56         ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-10 15:07           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 15:22             ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-10 17:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11  1:35           ` Kenneth Sumrall
2003-02-11  5:08             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11 17:09               ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-02-11 12:55           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 13:40             ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 14:06               ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-11 14:40                 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 15:20                   ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12  4:28                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-12 14:17                       ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12 14:51                         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-02-12 16:06                           ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-13 11:13                             ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-14  3:13                             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 14:20                               ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-14 18:10                                 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 18:23                                   ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-14 19:26                                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-02-14 19:44                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 20:00                                         ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-15  6:03                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-16 16:22                                             ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-16 21:48                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-17  4:26                                                 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-17  7:18                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-17 17:32                                                     ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12  4:47                     ` Suparna Bhattacharya

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