From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
Cc: suparna@in.ibm.com, Kenneth Sumrall <ken@mvista.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Kexec, DMA, and SMP
Date: 12 Feb 2003 07:51:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m13cmty2kq.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E4A578C.7000302@mvista.com>
Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com> writes:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> |Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com> writes:
> |
> |>
> |>You don't understand. You don't *want* to set aside a block of memory that's
> |>reserved for DMA. You want to be able to DMA directly into any user address.
> |>Consider demand paging. The performance would suck if you DMA into some
> |>fixed region then copied to the user address. Plus you then have another
> |>resource you have to manage in the kernel. And you still have to change all
> |>the drivers, buffer management, etc. to add a flag that says "I'm going to use
>
> |>this for DMA" to allocations. You might as well add the quiesce function,
> it's
>
> |>probably easier to do. And it doesn't help if you DMA to static memory
> |>addresses.
> |>
> |>I, too, would like a simpler solution. I just don't think this is it.
> |
> |
> |You have it backwards. It is not about reserving a block of memory
> |for DMA. It is about reserving a block of memory to not do DMA in.
> |Something like 4MB or so. |
> |The idea is not to let the original kernel touch the reserved block at all.
> |We just put the kernel that kexec will start in that block of memory.
> |
> |Eric
> |
> Ah, it makes much more sense now. Thank you. I still don't think it's as easy
> as you think, though.
> Because there's no designation on most memory allocations to give you this
> information. There's
> GFP_DMA, but according to the docs that's just for x86 ISA DMA devices. You
> would
> have to hunt down all the memory allocations, figure out of they are DMA targets
>
> or not, and add a
> flag for that. I still say it's easier to just add the function to the drivers.
It is trivial if you don't let alloc_pages give the memory to anyone for
any purpose.
Eric
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <m1isvuzjj2.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
2003-02-08 20:18 ` Kexec, DMA, and SMP Corey Minyard
2003-02-09 18:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-10 11:14 ` Kexec on 2.5.59 problems ? Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 17:09 ` [Fastboot] " Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-10 18:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11 7:21 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 17:04 ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-11 23:46 ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-12 4:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-12 22:31 ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-13 9:50 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-13 15:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-18 10:59 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-18 15:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-10 12:12 ` Kexec, DMA, and SMP Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 13:56 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-10 15:07 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-10 15:22 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-10 17:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11 1:35 ` Kenneth Sumrall
2003-02-11 5:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-11 17:09 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-02-11 12:55 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 13:40 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 14:06 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-11 14:40 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-11 15:20 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12 4:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-12 14:17 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12 14:51 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-02-12 16:06 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-13 11:13 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2003-02-14 3:13 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 14:20 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-14 18:10 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 18:23 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-14 19:26 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-02-14 19:44 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-14 20:00 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-15 6:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-16 16:22 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-16 21:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-17 4:26 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-17 7:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-17 17:32 ` Corey Minyard
2003-02-12 4:47 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
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