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Subject: Re: [patch] 32-bit dma memory zone
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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Date: 08 Jun 2001 08:55:04 -0600
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Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:22:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > For example, what's the difference between ZONE_HIGHMEM and ZONE_NORMAL
> > on a sane 64-bit architecture (right now I _think_ the 64-bit architectures
> > actually make ZONE_NORMAL be what we call ZONE_DMA32 on x86, because they
> > already need to be able to distinguish between memory that can be PCI-DMA'd
> > to, and memory that needs bounce-buffers. Or maybe it's ZONE_DMA that they
> > use for the DMA32 stuff?).
> 
> On most alphas we use only one zone -- ZONE_DMA.  The iommu makes it
> possible to do 32-bit pci to the entire memory space.
> 
> For those alphas without an iommu, we also set up ZONE_NORMAL.

The AMD760 which looks like it might walk on both the alpha, an x86
side of the fence also has an iommu.  Mostly it's used for AGP but
according to the docs it should be able to handle the other cases as
well.  The only downside is that it only supports 4GB of ram...

Anyway we shouldn't assume iommu's don't exist on x86.

Eric