From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757095AbZEDP7d (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2009 11:59:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756107AbZEDP7X (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2009 11:59:23 -0400 Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.231]:55600 "EHLO out01.mta.xmission.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755107AbZEDP7V (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2009 11:59:21 -0400 To: Dave Kleikamp Cc: Matthew Wilcox , "Paul E. McKenney" , tridge@samba.org, Al Viro , Pavel Machek , Christoph Hellwig , Steve French , Ogawa Hirofumi , linux-fsdevel , Michael Tokarev , LKML References: <20090501210109.GA3079@infradead.org> <20090502013729.GI6996@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090503225616.GD8633@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20090504063431.GK7141@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090504124129.GL7141@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090504124433.GW8822@parisc-linux.org> <20090504130638.GN7141@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090504132119.GX8822@parisc-linux.org> <20090504143919.GA6740@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090504150834.GZ8822@parisc-linux.org> <1241451391.20170.12.camel@norville.austin.ibm.com> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 08:59:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1241451391.20170.12.camel@norville.austin.ibm.com> (Dave Kleikamp's message of "Mon\, 04 May 2009 10\:36\:31 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XM-SPF: eid=;;;mid=;;;hst=in01.mta.xmission.com;;;ip=67.169.126.145;;;frm=ebiederm@xmission.com;;;spf=neutral X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.169.126.145 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mjt@tls.msk.ru, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp, smfrench@gmail.com, hch@infradead.org, pavel@ucw.cz, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, tridge@samba.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, matthew@wil.cx X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ebiederm@xmission.com X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa01 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;Dave Kleikamp X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Report: * -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG * -0.2 BAYES_40 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 20 to 40% * [score: 0.3400] * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa01 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] * 0.0 XM_SPF_Neutral SPF-Neutral * 0.4 UNTRUSTED_Relay Comes from a non-trusted relay Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:26:12 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in01.mta.xmission.com) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dave Kleikamp writes: > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 09:08 -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:39:19AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >> > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:21:19AM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> > > Bringing the patch to a public mailing list is a waste of time until >> > > there's a reliable description of the problem you're trying to solve. >> > >> > Please see the original patch. It does describes what it is doing. >> >> "What", but not "Why". Which is only acceptable in GNU changelogs ;-) > > Please understand the "Why" is a sticky subject that we can't and won't > discuss in a public forum. However, we believe the maintainers > understand the "Why" of it well enough to consider whether or not to > include such a patch. The "What" should be pretty clear from the patch > description. The "How" is a technical question that can be discussed > here. If the "Why" can not be discussed then you don't have a "Why" you can stand behind. If you don't have a "Why" you can stand behind the "Why" sucks and does not appear to be an appropriate justification for a patch applied to a public piece of code. Eric