From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dawson Engler <engler@csl.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CHECKER] a couple potential deadlocks in 2.4.5-ac8
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:53:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1593mW-001RQEC@mozart> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:33:01 +0100." <19317.992115181@redhat.com>
In message <19317.992115181@redhat.com> you write:
>
> torvalds@transmeta.com said:
> > Good point. Spinlocks (with the exception of read-read locks, of
> > course) and semaphores will deadlock on recursive use, while the BKL
> > has this "process usage counter" recursion protection.
>
> Obtaining a read lock twice can deadlock too, can't it?
>
> A B
> read_lock()
> write_lock()
> ...sleeps...
> read_lock()
> ...sleeps...
>
> Or do we not make new readers sleep if there's a writer waiting?
We can never[1] make new readers sleep if there's a writer waiting, as
Linus guaranteed that an IRQ handler which only ever grabs a read lock
means the rest of the code doesn't need to block interrupts on its
read locks (see Documentation/spinlock.txt IIRC).
Also, netfilter will break (brlocks inherit this property from
their spinlocks constituents).
Rusty.
[1] Well, we could, but we'd have to do a special "same CPU?" check,
which would suck badly.
--
Premature optmztion is rt of all evl. --DK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-10 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-09 7:59 [CHECKER] a couple potential deadlocks in 2.4.5-ac8 Dawson Engler
2001-06-09 8:11 ` checker suggestion Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-10 2:04 ` Dawson Engler
2001-06-09 10:45 ` [CHECKER] a couple potential deadlocks in 2.4.5-ac8 Alexander Viro
2001-06-09 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-09 17:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-09 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-09 19:33 ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-09 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-10 11:53 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2001-06-10 11:59 ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-09 19:36 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-09 20:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-09 21:44 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-10 2:28 ` Dawson Engler
2001-06-10 6:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-10 7:45 ` Dawson Engler
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