From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
Kenji Kaneshige <kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pci\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>,
Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:28:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1639yyp85.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1256830988.30701.55.camel@dc7800.home> (Bjorn Helgaas's message of "Thu\, 29 Oct 2009 09\:43\:08 -0600")
Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> writes:
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 08:13 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 01:16 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> >> Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> > after closing look up the code, it looks it will not break your setup.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. before the patches:
>> >> > a. when master card is inserted, all bridge in that card will get assigned with min_size
>> >> > b. when new cards is inserted to those slots in master card, will get assigned in the bridge size.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. after the patches: v5
>> >> > a. booted up, all leaf bridge mmio get clearred.
>> >> > b. when master card is inserted, all bridge in that card will get assigned with min_size, and master bridge will be sum of them
>> >> > c. when new cards is inserted to those slots in master card, will get assigned in the bridge size.
>> >> >
>> >> > can you check those two patches in your setup to verify it?
>> >>
>> >> I have a much simpler case I will break, as I tried something similar by accident.
>> >>
>> >> AMD cpu MCP55 with one pcie port setup as hotplug.
>> >> The system only has 2GB of RAM. So plenty of space for pcie devices.
>> >>
>> >> If the firmware assigns nothing and linux at boot time assigns the pci mmio space:
>> >> Reads from the bar of the hotplugged device work
>> >> Writes to the bar of the hotplugged device, cause further writes to go to lala land.
>> >>
>> >> So I had to have the firmware make the assignment, because only it knows the
>> >> details of the hidden AMD bar registers for each hypertransport chain etc.
>> >
>> > Do you mean you had to have firmware program a hot-added device, or just
>> > that firmware had to program the apertures of the root port that was
>> > present at boot, even though it had no devices below it?
>>
>> Firmware had to program the apertures of the root port that was present
>> at boot, even though it had no devices below it.
>>
>> > Firmware normally supplies ACPI _CRS information that tells us how it
>> > programmed the host bridge windows. On x86, Linux normally ignores that
>> > and just assumes a range based on memory size. If we paid attention to
>> > it (as with "pci=use_crs"), it's likely that we could do a better job of
>> > doing this setup.
>> >
>> > Or, of course, we could add a Linux driver that knows about "the hidden
>> > AMD bar registers." But I think that should be a last resort, for when
>> > firmware supplied incorrect _CRS information.
>>
>> In this case there was no ACPI, and even if there was correct _CRS information
>> it would have said only those addresses routed to bars/apertures on the
>> root bridge was routed to the MCP55. So while it looked like we had gobs
>> of unallocated space we could use. In practice we did not.
>
> I know this is a hypothetical case since you don't have ACPI, but I'm
> curious about this.
>
> I assume the magic AMD BARs only affect the host bridge, and that the
> downstream root ports look like standard PCI-to-PCI bridges. If that's
> the case, and if we have correct descriptions of the host bridge
> apertures, Linux should theoretically be able to do as well as firmware.
>
> But you seem to be suggesting that even with a correct host bridge
> description, there's space that *looks* available but is not. I don't
> understand how this can be.
What I meant was simply that not all of the non-memory space was
routed down the hypertransport chain to the mcp55. If you have an
accurate description of that you should be fine.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-29 19:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-21 7:19 [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices Yinghai Lu
2009-10-21 18:57 ` Alex Chiang
2009-10-22 0:29 ` [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-26 4:54 ` [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-26 5:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-26 7:48 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-26 8:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-26 10:27 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-26 17:59 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-26 18:52 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 8:31 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-28 17:44 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 17:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2009-10-28 18:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 19:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 19:12 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 19:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 19:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 21:39 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 22:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 22:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 8:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 9:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 15:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 17:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 19:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 19:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-30 8:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource that is not big -v8 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-30 8:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v8 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-10 8:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource that is not big -v8 Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-29 13:21 ` [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices Bjorn Helgaas
2009-10-29 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 15:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2009-10-29 19:28 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-10-29 19:36 ` Bjorn Helgaas
[not found] ` <4AE89933.8030809@kernel.org>
2009-10-28 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: only release that resource index is less than 3 -v5 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 6:34 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-29 9:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-28 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v4 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 8:28 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-29 8:30 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 8:55 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-29 8:57 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 9:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource index is not used -v6 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 16:31 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-10-29 17:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-10-29 17:51 ` Jesse Barnes
[not found] ` <4AE9657F.7010302@kernel.org>
2009-10-29 9:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v5 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-04 17:30 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-11-04 18:52 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-05 1:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource that is not big -v9 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-05 1:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v9 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-05 20:47 ` Alex Chiang
2009-11-05 21:06 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-07 5:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v10 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-07 5:43 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-10 8:07 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-10 9:48 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-13 6:08 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-13 6:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-13 8:33 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-14 8:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource that is not big -v11 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-24 1:08 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-24 1:14 ` Yinghai Lu
[not found] ` <4B0B3C13.9030502@jp.fujit! su.com>
2009-11-24 1:51 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-24 2:32 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-24 23:18 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 11:24 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-25 11:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] pciehp: remove redundancy in bridge resource allocation Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-25 17:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 11:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] pciehp: add support for bridge resource reallocation Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-25 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: release that leaf bridge' resource that is not big -v11 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-26 6:43 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-26 7:30 ` Yinghai
2009-11-27 7:12 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-27 7:52 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-27 8:26 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-27 23:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:58 ` [PATCH 0/9] pci: update pci bridge resource to get more big range for devices under it - v12 Yinghai Lu
[not found] ` <4B0D88A4.5050904@kerne! l.org>
[not found] ` <4B0D88A4.5050904@kernel.org>
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] pci: separate pci_setup_bridge to small functions Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] pci: add pci_bridge_release_unused_res and pci_bus_release_unused_bridge_res Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 3/9] pci: don't dump it when bus resource flags is not set Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 4/9] pci: add failed_list to record failed one for pci_bus_assign_resources Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 5/9] pci: update leaf bridge res to get more big range in pci assign unssign Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 6/9] pci: don't shrink bridge resources Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 7/9] pci: introduce pci_assign_unassigned_bridge_resources Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 8/9] pci: pciehp clean flow in pciehp_configure_device Yinghai Lu
2009-11-25 19:59 ` [PATCH 9/9] pci: pciehp second try to get big range for pcie devices Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:34 ` [PATCH 0/9] pci: update pci bridge resource to get more big range for devices under it - v13 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 8:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-30 7:10 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-30 7:14 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-30 7:26 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-11-30 7:43 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-30 8:19 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-30 8:44 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-12-16 20:54 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-16 21:11 ` Alex Chiang
2009-12-16 22:21 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-12-16 22:27 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-12-16 22:44 ` Alex Chiang
[not found] ` <4B10D084.8070608@kerne! l.org>
[not found] ` <4B10D084.8070608@kernel.org>
2009-11-28 7:34 ` [PATCH 1/9] pci: separate pci_setup_bridge to small functions Yinghai Lu
2009-12-16 20:41 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-17 11:03 ` Rolf Eike Beer
2009-11-28 7:35 ` [PATCH 2/9] pci: add pci_bridge_release_unused_res and pci_bus_release_unused_bridge_res Yinghai Lu
2009-12-16 20:49 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-16 22:19 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:35 ` [PATCH 3/9] pci: don't dump it when bus resource flags is not used Yinghai Lu
2009-12-16 20:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-16 22:20 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:35 ` [PATCH 4/9] pci: add failed_list to record failed one for pci_bus_assign_resources -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:35 ` [PATCH 5/9] pci: update leaf bridge res to get more big range in pci assign unssign -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-30 21:55 ` [PATCH 5/9] pci: update leaf bridge res to get more big range in pci assign unssign -v3 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:36 ` [PATCH 6/9] pci: don't shrink bridge resources Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:36 ` [PATCH 7/9] pci: introduce pci_assign_unassigned_bridge_resources -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:36 ` [PATCH 8/9] pci: pciehp clean flow in pciehp_configure_device Yinghai Lu
2009-11-28 7:36 ` [PATCH 9/9] pci: pciehp second try to get big range for pcie devices -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-12-01 1:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: pci_bridge_release_res Yinghai Lu
2009-12-07 21:42 ` Patrick Keller
2009-12-07 21:57 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-12-01 1:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] pciehp: add support for bridge resource reallocation -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-11-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v11 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-26 8:27 ` [PATCH] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v3 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-27 8:09 ` [PATCH 1/4] pci: pciehp update the slot bridge res to get big range for pcie devices - v4 Yinghai Lu
[not found] ` <4AE6A9CA.4060106@kernel.org>
2009-10-27 8:09 ` [PATCH 2/4] pci: revert "get larger bridge ranges when space is available" Yinghai Lu
2009-10-27 8:10 ` [PATCH 3/4] pci: only release that resource index is less than 3 -v3 Yinghai Lu
2009-10-27 8:10 ` [PATCH 4/4] pci: remove min_size for hotplug bridge Yinghai Lu
2009-10-27 9:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
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