From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>, hpa <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Dhaval Giani" <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Mike Travis" <travis@sgi.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] dyn_array and nr_irqs support v2
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:41:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m163qkjirc.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440808011809t275aa511h4a1e9d70ede21702@mail.gmail.com> (Yinghai Lu's message of "Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:09:38 -0700")
"Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Increase NR_IRQS to 512 for x86_64?
>>
>> x86_32 has it set to 1024 so 512 is too small. I think your patch
>> which essentially restores the old behavior is the right way to go for
>> this merge window. I just want to carefully look at it and ensure we
>> are restoring the old heuristics. On a lot of large machines we wind
>> up having irqs for pci slots that are never filled with cards.
>
> it seems 32bit summit need NR_IRQS=256, NR_IRQ_VECTOR=1024
Yes. Which is 1024 irq sources/gsis only 1/4 used so it will fit into 256 irqs.
On x86_64 we have removed the confusing and brittle irq compression
code. So to handle that many irqs we would need 1024 irqs.
I expect modern big systems that can only run x86_64 are larger still.
>> You have noticed how much of those arrays I have collapsed into irq_cfg
>> on x86_64. We can ultimately do the same on x86_32. The
>> tricky one is irq_2_pin. I believe the proper solution is to just
>> dynamically allocate entries and place a pointer in irq_cfg. Although
>> we may be able to simply a place a single entry in irq_cfg.
> so there will be irq_desc and irq_cfg lists?
Or we place irq_desc in irq_cfg.
> wonder if helper to get irq_desc and irq_cfg for one irq_no could be bottleneck?
Nah. We lookup whatever it we need in the 256 entry vector_irq table.
I expect we can do the container_of trick beyond that.
If the helper which we should only see on the slow path is a bottleneck
we can easily turn organize irq_desc into a tree structure. Ultimately
I think we want drivers to have a struct irq *irq pointer but we need
to get the arch backend working first.
> PS: cpumask_t domain in irq_cfg need to updated... it wast 512bytes
> when NR_CPUS=4096
> could change it to unsigned int. logical mode (flat, x2apic logical) it as mask
> and (physical flat mode, and x2apic physical) it is cpu number.
Certainly there is the potential to simplify things.
>> I agree with your sentiment if we can actually allocate the irqs by
>> demand instead of preallocating them based on worst case usage we
>> should use much less memory.
>
> yes.
>
>>
>> I figure that keeping any type of nr_irqs around you are requiring
>> us to estimate the worst case number of irqs we need to deal with.
>
> need to comprise flexibility and performance..., or say waste some
> space to get some performance...
The thing is there is no good upper bound of how many irqs we can see
short of of NR_PCI_DEVICES*4096
>> The challenge is that we have hot plug devices with MSI-X capabilities
>> on them. Just one of those could add 4K irqs (worst case). 256 or
>> so I have actually heard hardware guys talking about.
> good know. so one cpu handle one card? or need 16 cpus serve one
> cards? or they got new cpu to NR_VECTORS with 32bit?
Yes. Currently for the current worst case it requires 16 cpus.
The biggest I have heard a card using at this point is 256 irqs.
At lot of the goal in those cards is so they can have 2 irqs per cpu.
1 rx irq and 1 tx irq. Allowing them to implement per cpu queues.
> then need to keep struct irq_desc, can not put everything into it.
Yes. But we can put all the arch specific code in irq_cfg, and put
irq_desc in irq_cfg.
>> But even one msi vector on a pci card that doesn't have normal irqs could
>> mess up a tightly sized nr_irqs based soley on acpi_madt probing.
>
> v2 double that last_gsi_end
Which is usable, but no where near as nice as not having a fixed upper bound.
>> Sorry I was referring to the MSI-X source vector number which is a 12
>> bit index into an array of MSI-X vectors on the pci device, not the
>> vector we receive the irq at on the pci card.
>
> cpu is going to check that vectors in addition to vectors in IDT?
No. The destination cpu and destination vector number are encoded in
the MSI message. Each MSI-X source ``vector'' has a different MSI message.
So on my wish list is to stably encode the MSI interurrpt numbers. And
using a sparse irq address space I can. As it only takes 28 bits to hold
the complete bus + device + function + msi source [ 0-4095 ]
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-02 1:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-01 9:37 [PATCH 00/16] dyn_array and nr_irqs support v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 01/16] x86: 64bit support more than 256 irq Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 02/16] x86: introduce nr_irqs for 64bit v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 03/16] add dyn_array support Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 04/16] make irq_timer_state to use dyn_array Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 05/16] make irq2_iommu " Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 06/16] make irq_desc " Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 07/16] x86: make 64bit support dyn_array Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 08/16] serial: change remove NR_IRQS in 8250.c v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 09/16] add per_cpu_dyn_array support Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 10/16] irq: make irqs in kernel stat use per_cpu_dyn_array Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 11/16] x86 remove irq_vectors_limit.h Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 12/16] x86: make 32bit use dyn_array Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 13/16] add per_cpu_dyn_array for arch percpu support Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 14/16] x86: get mp_irqs from madt Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 15/16] x86: make 32bit more like with io_apic/dyn_array to 64 bit Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 16/16] x86: alloc dyn_array all alltogether Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 20:46 ` [PATCH 00/16] dyn_array and nr_irqs support v2 Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-01 21:30 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 21:57 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 22:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-01 22:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-01 22:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-02 1:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-02 1:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02 1:41 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-08-02 2:01 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-02 2:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02 2:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-02 3:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02 4:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-02 15:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02 20:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-04 12:57 ` Mike Travis
2008-08-05 2:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05 3:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-05 3:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-01 21:47 ` Mike Travis
2008-08-02 2:58 ` Yinghai Lu
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