From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
video4linux-list@redhat.com, kraxel@bytesex.org,
Containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kthread: saa7134-tvaudio.c
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:39:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m164gafld6.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1k64rf9om.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (Eric W. Biederman's message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:39:53 -0600")
ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
> Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
>
>> So in general, yes, the driver should be converted to the kthread API -
>> this is a requirement for virtualisation, but I forget why, and that's the
>> "standard" way of doing it.
>
> With the kthread api new kernel threads are started as children of keventd
> in well defined circumstances. If you don't do this kernel threads
> can wind up sharing weird parts of a parent process's resources and
> locking resources in the kernel long past the time when they are
> actually used by anything a user space process can kill.
>
> We have actually witnessed this problem with the kernels filesystem mount
> namespace. Mostly daemonize in the kernel unshares everything that
> could be a problem but the problem is sufficiently subtle it makes
> more sense to the change kernel threads. So these weird and subtle
> dependencies go away.
>
> So in essence the container work needs the new kthread api for the
> same reasons everyone else does it is just more pronounced in that
> case.
That plus the obvious bit. For the pid namespace we have to declare
war on people storing a pid_t values. Either converting them to
struct pid * or removing them entirely. Doing the kernel_thread to
kthread conversion removes them entirely.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-30 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-29 21:15 [PATCH] kthread: saa7134-tvaudio.c Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2006-08-29 21:22 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-29 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-29 22:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-30 12:39 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-08-30 14:07 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-08-30 15:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-30 16:18 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-08-30 16:35 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-30 16:38 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-08-30 16:30 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-08-30 16:49 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-30 17:36 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2006-08-31 1:02 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2006-08-31 1:05 ` [PATCH] kthread: tvaudio.c Sukadev Bhattiprolu
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