From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@lhnet.ca>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/13] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:42:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17hu7ez0v.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104024332.GA27639@us.ibm.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Tue\, 3 Nov 2009 20\:43\:32 -0600")
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
>> From: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>>
>> Currently every caller of sysfs_chmod_file happens at either
>> file creation time to set a non-default mode or in response
>> to a specific user requested space change in policy. Making
>> timestamps of when the chmod happens and notification of
>> a file changing mode uninteresting.
>
> But these changes can occur by togging values in sysfs files
> (i.e. f71805f.c), right? Is this (specifically not doing inotify)
> definately uncontroversial?
The fs_notify_change was not introduced to deliberately support
a feature but as a side effect of other cleanups. So there
is no indication that anyone cares about inotify support.
> I can't exactly picture an admin sitting there watching
> nautilus for a sysfs file to become writeable, but could
> imagine some site's automation getting hung... Or am I way
> off base?
I would be stunned if the shell script in the automation that writes
to a sysfs file to make things writeable doesn't on it's next line
kick off whatever needs it to be writable.
With no benefit to using inotify and with only a handful of sysfs
files affected I don't expect this change to break anything in
userspace and I have been happily running with it for a year or so on
all of our machines at work with no one problems.
The reason I am making the change is that the goal of this patchset is
to get sysfs to act like any other distributed filesystem in linux,
and to use the same interfaces in roughly the same ways as other
distributed filesystems. Unfortunately there is not a good interface
for distributed filesystems to support inotify or I would use it.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-04 3:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-03 11:53 [PATCH 0/13] sysfs lazification Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 11:56 ` [PATCH 01/13] sysfs: Update sysfs_setxattr so it updates secdata under the sysfs_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 13:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 21:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 21:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 22:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-07 2:27 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-03 11:56 ` [PATCH 02/13] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:56 ` [PATCH 03/13] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 22:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 04/13] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 2:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 3:42 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-11-04 4:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 05/13] sysfs: Simplify iattr time assignments Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 2:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 06/13] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 3:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 3:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 12:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 07/13] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 3:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 4:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 08/13] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 09/13] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 5:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 14:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-07 2:06 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-08 6:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 10/13] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 11/13] sysfs: Gut sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 4:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-07 2:08 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 12/13] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 21:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 21:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-07 2:11 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-07 2:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-07 2:20 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-07 2:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-07 11:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-11-07 11:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 14:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-09 22:34 ` Eric Biederman
2009-11-03 11:57 ` [PATCH 13/13] sysfs: Factor out sysfs_rename from sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 22:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 22:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 22:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-05 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 12:04 ` [PATCH 14/13] sysfs: sysfs_setattr remove unnecessary permission check Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 14:25 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-07 2:18 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-04 12:05 ` [PATCH 15/13] sysfs: Protect sysfs_refresh_inode with inode mutex Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-04 14:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-04 20:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-07 2:26 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-08 7:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-06 22:48 ` [PATCH 0/13] sysfs lazification Greg KH
2009-11-08 7:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-17 9:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-17 15:41 ` Greg KH
2009-11-17 15:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:25 ` [PATCH 0/15] sysfs lazification final Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:26 ` [PATCH 01/15] sysfs: Update sysfs_setxattr so it updates secdata under the sysfs_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 02/15] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 03/15] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 04/15] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 05/15] sysfs: Simplify iattr time assignments Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 06/15] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 14:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-20 20:13 ` Greg KH
2009-11-20 21:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-21 0:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-21 5:12 ` Greg KH
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 07/15] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 08/15] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 09/15] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 10/15] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 11/15] sysfs: Gut sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 12/15] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 13/15] sysfs: Factor out sysfs_rename from sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 14/15] sysfs: sysfs_setattr remove unnecessary permission check Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 7:27 ` [PATCH 15/15] sysfs: Protect sysfs_refresh_inode with inode mutex Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 3:57 ` [PATCH 0/15] sysfs lazification final Tejun Heo
2009-11-30 21:33 ` Greg KH
2009-11-30 21:53 ` Greg KH
2009-12-01 0:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
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