From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, fastboot <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>,
Hariprasad Nellitheertha <hari@in.ibm.com>,
suparna bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps.
Date: 02 Feb 2005 08:42:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17jlr9der.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1107338864.11609.35.camel@2fwv946.in.ibm.com>
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> writes:
> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 20:56, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> writes:
>
> "elfcorehdr=" also looks good.
Then let's go with that for now. It is not perfect but it seems
a little more self explanatory at first glance.
> > A clarification on terminology we are talking about struct Elf64_Phdr
> > here. There is only one Elf header. That seems to be clear farther
> > down.
> >
>
>
> Exactly. There shall be one Elf header for whole of the image. In
> addition there will be one struct Elf64_Phdr, per contiguous physical
> memory area. One Elf64_Phdr of PT_NOTE type for notes section and one
> Elf64_Phdr for backup region.
Actually if we are just pointing a kernel data structures we will
need multiple Elf64_Phdr of PT_NOTE. Each cpu has it's own
notes section and until the smoke clears we can't be confident
about what is going to wind up there or how densely those will
be packed. So collapsing everything into a single notes segment
needs to happen after we have switched to the crash capture kernel.
> > I have serious concerns about the kernel generating the ELF headers
> > and only delivering them after the kernel has crashed. Because
> > then we run into questions of what information can be trusted. If we
> > avoid that issue I am not too concerned.
>
>
> I hope, all elf headers once prepared by kexec-tools need not to change
> later (Cannot think of any piece of information which shall change
> later). These shall be put in separate segment. And SHA-256 shall take
> care of authenticity of information after crash.
That should work fine. We need to consider through throwing in an
extra note section with information like kernel version that
we can capture while the system is running.
> For notes section program header, virtual = physical = 0 and "offset"
> shall point to crash_notes[], so that notes can directly be read by the
> capture kernel (or user space).
I agree. But see my caveat. I think we should have one PT_NOTE
segment point at each element of the crash_notes[] array. I know
it is technically a violation of the ELF spec. But in this case
it makes sense. Since we can't guarantee that crash_notes will
be packed properly I don't know that we could reliably see more
than one cpu if we pointed a PT_NOTE header at the whole thing.
If it turns out that we can reliably point a single PT_NOTE header
at crash_notes so much the better but things are likely to be
more robust if we don't start with that assumption. That
at least allows us the freedom to capture some notes (like NT_UTSNAME)
before the kernel crashes.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-02 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-19 7:31 [PATCH 0/29] overview Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 1/29] x86-rename-apic_mode_exint Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 2/29] x86-local-apic-fix Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 3/29] x86_64-e820-64bit Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 5/29] x86_64-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 7/29] x86_64-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 8/29] vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 9/29] x86-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 10/29] x86_64-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 11/29] x86_64-entry64 Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 12/29] x86-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 13/29] x86_64-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 14/29] kexec-kexec-generic Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 15/29] x86-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 18/29] x86_64-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 20/29] x86_64-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 21/29] kexec-ppc-support Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 22/29] x86-crash_shutdown-nmi-shootdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 23/29] x86-crash_shutdown-snapshot-registers Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 24/29] x86-crash_shutdown-apic-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 25/29] crashdump-documentation Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 26/29] crashdump-memory-preserving-reboot-using-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 27/29] crashdump-routines-for-copying-dump-pages Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 28/29] crashdump-elf-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 29/29] crashdump-linear-raw-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:25 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 15:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-20 18:06 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:10 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Hariprasad Nellitheertha
2005-01-19 18:17 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:54 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 6:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 7:36 ` Len Brown
2005-01-25 9:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:32 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 3:59 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-25 6:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 8:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 9:43 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 10:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 10:49 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 11:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 20:57 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 12:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 22:02 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 22:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 13:27 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 14:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 14:43 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 15:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 22:58 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-21 7:55 ` [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 7:54 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-21 10:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 11:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-23 10:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-26 17:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-27 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-28 13:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-28 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-01 15:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:10 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 7:49 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:28 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-03 9:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 23:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 0:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 1:07 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 8:49 ` [PATCH] /proc/cpumem Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 13:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:43 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 9:55 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-18 6:17 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-18 7:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:17 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2005-02-17 5:58 ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2005-02-17 6:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 18:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-02-17 19:46 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 14:26 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 10:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-02 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-02-03 14:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 8:04 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-01 9:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:42 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 14:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 0:23 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 1:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 9:08 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 14:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:02 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 9:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-03 9:37 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 9:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 10:10 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 10:05 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-04 11:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 12:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
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