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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Norman Gaywood <norm@turing.une.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0?
Date: 07 Dec 2002 11:27:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17kelwupg.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021206223459.GG4335@dualathlon.random>

Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:12:38AM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > split just to get a bloated mem_map to fit. Many of the smaller apps,
> > e.g. /bin/sh etc. are indifferent to the ABI violation.
> 
> the problem of the split is that it would reduce the address space
> available to userspace that is quite critical on big machines (one of
> the big advantages of 64bit that can't be fixed on 32bit) but I wouldn't
> classify it as an ABI violation, infact the little I can remember about
> the 2.0 kernels [I almost never read that code] is that it had shared
> address space and tlb flush while entering/exiting kernel, so I can bet
> the user stack in 2.0  was put at 4G, not at 3G. 2.2 had to put it at 3G
> because then the address space was shared with the obvious performance
> advantages, so while I didn't read any ABI, I deduce you can't say the
> ABI got broken if the stack is put at 2G or 1G or 3.5G or 4G again with
> x86-64 (of course x86-64 can give the full 4G to userspace because the
> kernel runs in the negative part of the [64bit] address space, as 2.0
> could too).

As I remember it 2.0 used the 3/1 split the difference was that
segments had different base register values.  So the kernel though it
was running at 0.  %fs which retained a base address of 0 was used
when access to user space was desired.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-07 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-06  0:13 Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0? Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06  1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  1:17   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  1:34     ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  1:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  2:15         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06  2:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  2:41             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06  5:25               ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  5:48                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  6:14                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06  6:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  7:14                     ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06  7:25                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  7:34                         ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06  7:51                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 11:37                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-12-06 16:19                             ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06 14:57                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 15:12                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:32                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:45                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:57                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  6:00                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:28               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:21                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:50                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  0:30                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:01                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  0:21                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  2:19                       ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07  1:46                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  1:56                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  2:31                           ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07  2:09                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  0:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  0:46                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 10:55                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 10:36           ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 14:23             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 15:12               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 18:27                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-12-06  1:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <mailman.1039133948.27411.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-06  0:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-06  1:27   ` Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06 12:48     ` Rik van Riel

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