From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Norman Gaywood <norm@turing.une.edu.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0?
Date: 07 Dec 2002 11:27:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17kelwupg.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021206223459.GG4335@dualathlon.random>
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:12:38AM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > split just to get a bloated mem_map to fit. Many of the smaller apps,
> > e.g. /bin/sh etc. are indifferent to the ABI violation.
>
> the problem of the split is that it would reduce the address space
> available to userspace that is quite critical on big machines (one of
> the big advantages of 64bit that can't be fixed on 32bit) but I wouldn't
> classify it as an ABI violation, infact the little I can remember about
> the 2.0 kernels [I almost never read that code] is that it had shared
> address space and tlb flush while entering/exiting kernel, so I can bet
> the user stack in 2.0 was put at 4G, not at 3G. 2.2 had to put it at 3G
> because then the address space was shared with the obvious performance
> advantages, so while I didn't read any ABI, I deduce you can't say the
> ABI got broken if the stack is put at 2G or 1G or 3.5G or 4G again with
> x86-64 (of course x86-64 can give the full 4G to userspace because the
> kernel runs in the negative part of the [64bit] address space, as 2.0
> could too).
As I remember it 2.0 used the 3/1 split the difference was that
segments had different base register values. So the kernel though it
was running at 0. %fs which retained a base address of 0 was used
when access to user space was desired.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-12-07 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-12-06 0:13 Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0? Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 1:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 1:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 1:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 2:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 2:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 2:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 5:25 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 5:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 6:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 6:55 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 7:14 ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06 7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 7:34 ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06 7:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 11:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-12-06 16:19 ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06 14:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 15:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 6:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 0:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07 0:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07 2:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07 1:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 1:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 2:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07 2:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 0:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 0:35 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07 0:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 10:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 10:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 14:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 15:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 18:27 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-12-06 1:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] <mailman.1039133948.27411.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-06 0:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-06 1:27 ` Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06 12:48 ` Rik van Riel
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