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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Dave Olson <olson@unixfolk.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Initial generic hypertransport interrupt support.
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:48:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m18xn0h99q.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ABD3384-5829-4365-988C-43310D374CE5@kernel.crashing.org> (Segher Boessenkool's message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:29:29 +0200")

Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:

>> As for supporting multiple irqs in plain MSI mode, I don't think
>> we want to do that.  The problem is that multiple interrupts
>> in msi mode cannot be individually routed.
>
> On some(/many/most) platforms that isn't a problem.  Platforms
> for which it is can just refuse to allocate more than one MSI
> at once.

It is a problem on all platforms that currently implement MSI.

>> I think we really want
>> to encourage vendors who are building cards with multiple MSI irqs
>> to use MSI-X.  MSI-X has a lot fewer ugly special cases and all
>> architectures can individually route the irqs.
>
> We still should support whatever hardware already exists, if
> possible.

Which hardware is this a problem for?

MSI and MSI-X only guarantee the availability of 1 irq if I recall
correctly.  More are a bonus so cards should be able to fall back
to a single irq mode.

>> If there are interesting cards that support just MSI mode and really
>> need more than one irq I would be happy to reconsider that decision
>> but my impression was that plain MSI was basically not quite flexible
>> enough to really be interesting, and supporting just one MSI irq was
>> ok but any more would lead to all kinds of strange special cases.
>
> Individual drivers can deal with those special cases if they are device-
> specific; and the platform can just refuse to do more than one MSI if
> something platform-specific would prevent correct operation.
>
> It would be nice to have the MSI and MSI-X interfaces have the same
> calling convention; in fact, they can probably be folded into one.

Examples? details? patches?

Part of the problem with plain MSI is that you can't mask irqs at the
source, in a generic way.

How do your ideas compare with my hypertransport irq implementation?

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-11  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-10 22:14 [PATCH 1/2] Add Hypertransport capability defines Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] Initial generic hypertransport interrupt support Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:39   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-11  3:51     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  5:20       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-11  6:29         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  7:29           ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-11  7:48             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-07-11  9:15               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-11 19:56                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 22:18                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-11 22:27   ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-12  3:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12  6:10       ` Dave Olson
2006-07-12  6:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13  3:56           ` Dave Olson
2006-07-13 15:13             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 18:15               ` Dave Olson
2006-07-13 18:41                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 19:00                   ` Dave Olson
2006-07-13 19:20                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 19:34                       ` Dave Olson

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