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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
Cc: Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Header files and the kernel ABI
Date: 27 Jul 2002 05:29:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1adodif3u.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207251455460.17906-100000@waste.org>

Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org> writes:
> 
> The idea of maintaining them separately is that people won't be able to
> touch the ABI without explicitly going through a gatekeeper whose job is
> to minimize breakage. Linus usually catches ABI changes but not always.
> 
> I explicitly did _not_ suggest making it the job of libc maintainers. And
> the whole point of the exercise is to avoid ABI of the day anyway. The ABI
> should change less frequently than the kernel or libc. It's more analogous
> to something like modutils.

Except for ioctls.  Until we can get those under control the abi headers
need to remain part of the kernel.  Gatekeeping on the ioctls is something
we need.

And even if the code is part of the kernel, Linus can still delegate
the work of verifying it he wants.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-27 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-25  6:28 Header files and the kernel ABI H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-25  6:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-25  7:07   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-25  7:32     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-25 16:29       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-07-25 16:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-25 18:19           ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-25 20:03             ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-07-27 11:29               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-07-25 16:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-25  8:00 ` DervishD
2002-07-25 13:08 ` Brad Hards
2002-07-25 16:09   ` DervishD
2002-07-25 16:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-25 18:22     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-31 21:37 ` Kernel ABI BoF at Linux-Kongress? [was: Header files and the kernel ABI] Brad Hards
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-25 21:13 Header files and the kernel ABI dank
2002-07-26  2:37 ` jw schultz

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