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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>,
	"Erik A. Hendriks" <hendriks@lanl.gov>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS
Date: 05 Feb 2002 00:45:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1aduo74o2.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
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In-Reply-To: <3C5EF846.1070501@zytor.com>

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:

> Werner Almesberger wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Well, it keeps things simple for the kernel, and bootimg(8) needs
> > to know the target architecture anyway. But there isn't really a
> > design reason why it would have to use pages, agreed.
> > 
> 
> 
> I looked at this point at some time, and I found that it made it a lot
> easier to write code to permute memory arbitrarily, as may be required.
>   The reason is that you really want to keep an array that's O(N) in the
> size of memory to keep track of where things are, and in order to do that,
> realistically, you need to have some reasonably large granularity -- 4K
> pages are just about right.

On the kernel side I still plan to use pages, though my ideal case
would be to allocate one great big slab of non-conflicting memory, and
just copy everything to where it needs to go.

On the user space side what I am proposing actually increases the
granularity quite a bit.  For a linux kernel with a ramdisk you should
only need to pass the kernel 3 segments.  (Assuming everything is
contiguous in user space memory).  The setup code, the kernel, and the
ramdisk.

> Of course, maybe I was just using a dumb algorithm... :)

Perhaps.  So far I don't need an array that is O(N) in the size of
memory just O(N) in the size of the image I am copying.   The
permutations that are necessary to avoid conflicts in the pathological
cases are a pain.  But I've already done that...

Anyway now it's back to the trenches...

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-05  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-30 19:54 [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-30 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-30 23:52   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31  2:42   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  2:48     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  4:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  4:41         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  5:15           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  5:59             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]               ` <m1n0yvaucy.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
2002-01-31 17:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 22:34                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 22:52                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01  7:52                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 17:35           ` Erik A. Hendriks
2002-01-31 23:36             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01  0:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01  9:03                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01  9:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 15:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01 18:26                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 16:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-02 21:06                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 23:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03  1:56                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 18:43                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03 19:39                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:18                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 22:24                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:59                                         ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 23:01                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 23:47                                             ` Rob Landley
2002-02-04  1:34                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04  9:53                                             ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-04 16:19                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:55                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 20:51                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 20:40                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 19:48                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 20:16                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04  4:29                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-02-04 20:01                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 12:49                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 16:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:45                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 21:02                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 21:08                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05  7:45                                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-02-01  0:46               ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31  3:03     ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01  7:22       ` Greg KH
2002-01-30 21:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  2:31   ` Eric W. Biederman

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