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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: andersen@codepoet.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.
Date: 14 Nov 2000 07:59:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1bsvia9bt.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17l6deey7.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <20001114011331.B1496@codepoet.org>
In-Reply-To: Erik Andersen's message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:13:32 -0700"

Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org> writes:

> On Thu Nov 09, 2000 at 01:18:24AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > 
> > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot
> > into another linux kernel.  
> 
> Looks very cool.  I'm curious about your decision to use ELF images.  This
> makes it much less conveinient to use due to the kernel postprocessing, and
> makes it that the kernel binary from which you initially boot is not
> necessirily the same as the binary that you re-boot into.  

The decision here was that I needed to pass a vector of 
<physical address, length, data> pairs.  The elf program header
is dead simple and provides it.  So I either had to invent a
complicated argument passing mechanism for a syscall or have the
kernel parse a file.

> Wouldn't it be more reasonable to simply try to exec whatever file is provided?
> If the concern is initrds; they can be simply pasted into the kernel binary.

That's exactly what my preprocessing does. 

vmlinux is also an elf binary.  As is arch/i386/boot/bvmlinux but it
is compressed.

All mkelfImage does is the pasting of initrd's, command lines,
and just a touch of argument conversion code.

What I don't do deliberately is allow or need setup.S which does
syscalls to run.  All it does are BIOS calls, and store them in a
nasty data structure.  I have replaced that data structure with 
something that is maintainable.  

I would like very much to not need mkelfImage.  However that
requires further changes to the kernel, and I cannot boot an unpatched
kernel with that method.  

Eric
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-15 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-09  8:18 Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <3A0ABB0C.99075A61@holly-springs.nc.us>
2000-11-11 19:46   ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-11 22:46     ` Adam Lazur
2000-11-12  0:06       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <20001109113524.C14133@animx.eu.org>
2000-11-11 20:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-11 20:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12  0:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12  0:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12  6:31           ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-11 22:11 ` Adam Lazur
2000-11-12  0:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-14 14:49     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-16 17:33       ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-19  2:24         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-19  7:20           ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-19 13:25             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-19 20:14               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-18 16:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-14  8:13 ` Erik Andersen
2000-11-14 14:59   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2000-11-15 23:30     ` Erik Andersen
2000-11-16  6:19       ` Eric W. Biederman

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