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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] proc: Implement support for automounts in task directories
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:51:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d4h7v8jf.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081106202822.a1af8a6e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:28:22 -0800")

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:51:23 -0800 ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
> wrote:
>
>> If we could do all of this with reference counting so that the
>> mount would persist exactly until the last user of it has gone
>> away without a periodic poll I would love it.  But the infrastructure
>> doesn't support that today,
>
> Well that sucks.  The free-on-last-put idiom occurs in so many places
> and serves us so well.  I wonder what went wrong here?

> I guess it has interactions with dentry and inode cache aging which
> could get tricky.

At least in part.  If you just have the dentry you can't  easily
find what is mounted on it.  

>> and where this is at least partially
>> a bug fix I would rather not have the change depend on enhancing
>> the VFS.
>> 
>> The algorithm is actually very aggressive and in practice you don't
>> see any /proc/<pid>/net showing up as a mount point.
>
> Do you think it has failure modes?  Most particularly: obscure usage
> patterns which can cause memory exhaustion?

I don't think we can pin anything that way that we can't
pin right now.

You might be able to pin more if you happen to mount something
on top of /proc/<pid>/net/  but that is an unprivileged operation.

>> > Obviously, that becomes clearer as one spends more time with the code,
>> > but I wonder whether this has all been made as maintainble as it
>> > possibly could be.
>> 
>> Good question.
>> 
>> In the sense of will we have to go through and futz with the code all
>> of the time.  The abstraction seems good.   You put a mount on
>> the proc_automounts list with do_add_mounts and it goes away eventually
>> with all of the vfs rules maintained.
>> 
>> In the sense of can the code be read?    Perhaps it could be better.
>> I expect it helps to have run the code and see /proc/net as a filesystem.
>> that is magically mounted.
>
> 'twould be a useful contribution if you were to enshrine your
> discoveries in /*these things*/.  You knew I was working up to that :)

Short of a big fat comment I'm not certain if there is something I can do
better.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-07 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 10:38 [PATCH 1/7] vfs: Fix shrink_submounts Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] proc: Implement support for automounts in task directories Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:49   ` [PATCH 3/7] proc: Support multiple filesystems using the proc generic infrastructure Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:53     ` [PATCH 4/7] proc: Make /proc/net it's own filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:56       ` [PATCH 5/7] proc_net: Don't show the wrong /proc/net after unshare Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:57         ` [PATCH 6/7] proc_net: Simplify network namespace lookup Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 10:58           ` [PATCH 7/7] proc: Cleanup proc_flush_task Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  1:25   ` [PATCH 2/7] proc: Implement support for automounts in task directories Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  2:02     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  1:26   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  2:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  2:49       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  3:51         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  4:28           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 15:51             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-11-07 16:05               ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:58                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-13 23:39                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-19  0:07                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-19  2:35                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-19 13:20                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  4:41   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-07 16:04     ` [PATCH] proc: Supply proc_shrink_automounts when CONFIG_PROC_FS=N Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-07  1:22 ` [PATCH 1/7] vfs: Fix shrink_submounts Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  2:06   ` Eric W. Biederman

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