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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Atsushi Tsuji <a-tsuji@bk.jp.nec.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kill_something_info: don't take tasklist_lock for pid==-1 case
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:53:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d4ng74gm.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48337F5C.2040601@bk.jp.nec.com> (Atsushi Tsuji's message of "Wed, 21 May 2008 10:48:12 +0900")

Atsushi Tsuji <a-tsuji@bk.jp.nec.com> writes:

> Sorry for late reply and thank you for your comment. I understood the
> mechanism that kill(-1, SIGKILL) can miss the tasks forked by init
> (and the thread group of the current process, because we don't also
> send the signal to them). If kill(-1, SIGKILL) finish before the
> forking init process does list_add_tail_rcu(p->tasks) in
> copy_process(), the process forked by init appears on the ->tasks list
> after that.  Is that right?

No because of this from fork.c:copy_process()
       /*
         * Process group and session signals need to be delivered to just the
         * parent before the fork or both the parent and the child after the
         * fork. Restart if a signal comes in before we add the new process to
         * it's process group.
         * A fatal signal pending means that current will exit, so the new
         * thread can't slip out of an OOM kill (or normal SIGKILL).
         */
        recalc_sigpending();
        if (signal_pending(current)) {
                spin_unlock(&current->sighand->siglock);
                write_unlock_irq(&tasklist_lock);
                retval = -ERESTARTNOINTR;
                goto bad_fork_free_pid;
        }

We closed that whole a while ago, and in doing so reviewed the semantics
and verify that the behavior is required.
>
> Now, I noticed the important problem. I found the tasklist lock in
> kill_something_info() can cause stall when some processes execute
> kill(-1,SIGCONT) concurrently. It can happen even if a system has
> only 4 CPUs (and even if a user is not privileged (not root)).  This is
> because the writer cannot take the tasklist lock when a lot of readers
> exist and keep holding it.
>
> This allows a local DoS. So we have to avoid that stall. The
> conversion from the tasklist lock to rcu_read_lock() can solve this
> problem. I think my patch doesn't make the new problem because the
> problem that kill can miss the tasks have originally occurred without
> my one. If there is no problem, could you ack it?

There are problems.  It would be nice to avoid the local DOS.  How is
a good question, given the atomic definition of signal delivery.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-21  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-25  4:27 [PATCH] kill_something_info: don't take tasklist_lock for pid==-1 case Atsushi Tsuji
2008-03-25 13:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-05-21  1:48   ` Atsushi Tsuji
2008-05-21  2:53     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-05-21  3:47   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-26  7:03     ` Atsushi TSUJI
2008-05-28 15:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-31 16:55     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-05-31 23:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-01 16:29         ` Oleg Nesterov

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