From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Cardbus
Date: 16 Jun 2002 01:01:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d6urvhaj.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206151453360.3479-100000@home.transmeta.com>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> >
> > IIRC someone told me that we had to do the "assuming transparent" bit
> > because of buggy PCI-PCI bridges used on some PCs. Can anyone
> > enlighten me on the details of that?
>
> It has nothing to do with "buggy" PCI-PCI bridges, and everything to do
> with the fact that a lot of bridges seem to extend on the official PCI
> bridge interface in various ways. In particular, it seems to be fairly
> common to have the _real_ bridging information in the chip-specific range
> (PCI config area 0x40+) instead of in the official "2 mem resources, 2 IO
> resources" place.
As additional detail this works for the bridge manufactures because they
can get the BIOS to do the hard work, and the os doesn't have to touch it.
For any component that isn't designed to be part of a plug-in card,
there isn't a compelling reason for the vendors to follow a standard
interface for configuring it. Only the use case must follow a
standard interface.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-16 7:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-03 11:07 2.5.20 - Xircom PCI Cardbus doesn't work Alessandro Suardi
2002-06-06 17:08 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-09 9:17 ` Tobias Diedrich
2002-06-09 10:55 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-10 15:44 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-10 19:28 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-14 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-14 17:20 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-14 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-14 17:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-14 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-14 18:12 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-14 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-14 19:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-15 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-15 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-15 19:39 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-15 19:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-15 23:00 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-15 20:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-15 22:51 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-14 19:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-14 23:25 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-14 23:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-15 8:25 ` Ingo Oeser
2002-06-14 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-06-14 18:30 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-14 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-14 20:07 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-15 2:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-15 21:58 ` Cardbus Linus Torvalds
2002-06-16 7:01 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-06-16 8:18 ` Cardbus Paul Mackerras
2002-06-10 20:59 ` 2.5.20 - Xircom PCI Cardbus doesn't work Alessandro Suardi
2002-06-16 4:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-16 7:40 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-16 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-16 18:42 ` Martin Dalecki
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