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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm\@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"avi\@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] enable x2APIC without interrupt remapping under KVM
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:44:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1eit1acxl.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090630092623.GI20289@redhat.com> (Gleb Natapov's message of "Tue\, 30 Jun 2009 12\:26\:23 +0300")

Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 02:24:05AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > KVM would like to provide x2APIC interface to a guest without emulating
>> > interrupt remapping device. The reason KVM prefers guest to use x2APIC
>> > is that x2APIC interface is better virtualizable and provides better
>> > performance than mmio xAPIC interface:
>> >
>> > - msr exits are faster than mmio (no page table walk, emulation)
>> > - no need to read back ICR to look at the busy bit
>> > - one 64 bit ICR write instead of two 32 bit writes
>> > - shared code with the Hyper-V paravirt interface
>> >     
>> > Included patch changes x2APIC enabling logic to enable it even if IR
>> > initialization failed, but kernel runs under KVM and no apic id is
>> > greater than 255 (if there is one spec requires BIOS to move to x2apic
>> > mode before starting an OS).
>> 
>> 
>> How common is hotplug hardware in kvm?  In particular hotplug cpus?
>> 
> It works for Linux guests.

>
>> To support that seriously you need interrupt remapping.
>> 
> Can you explain why?

Because ioapics don't fully function according to spec,
and the interrupt code on the hotplug path is a horrible
terrible broken hack for ioapics.

It is better than nothing but it certainly is not something
I would expect to work all of the time.

Interrupt remapping is the one case where we have hardware
that works according to spec and that works reasonably well.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-30 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-29 13:29 [PATCH v3] enable x2APIC without interrupt remapping under KVM Gleb Natapov
2009-06-29 14:58 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-06-29 15:10   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-29 15:15     ` Suresh Siddha
2009-06-29 15:45       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-30  9:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-30  9:26   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-30 16:44     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-06-30 17:12       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 19:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-30 19:16           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 19:36             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-01  8:30               ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-01 13:31                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-01 22:53               ` Suresh Siddha
2009-07-02  0:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-07 16:14                   ` Suresh Siddha
2009-07-10 20:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-30 19:03       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-30 19:43         ` Eric W. Biederman

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