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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: TaoMa <tao.ma@oracle.com>
Cc: Amerigo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch BUGFIX] kcore: fix its wrong size on x86_64
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:48:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1eitl8eiq.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A36C6CA.9070507@oracle.com> (TaoMa's message of "Tue\, 16 Jun 2009 06\:10\:18 +0800")

TaoMa <tao.ma@oracle.com> writes:

> ebiederm@xmission.com wrote:
>> Tao Ma <tao.ma@oracle.com> writes:
>>
>>   
>>> Hi Amerigo,
>>>
>>> The wrong number I mean is 131941393240064.
>>>
>>> So do you think
>>> [root@test3 ~]# ls -l /proc/kcore
>>> -r-------- 1 root root 131941393240064 Jun 15 13:39 /proc/kcore
>>>
>>> is better than
>>>
>>> [taoma@test2 ~]$ ll /proc/kcore
>>> -r-------- 1 root root 281474974617600 Jun 15 15:20 /proc/kcore
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>> Actually the right result should look like
>>>
>>> [root@test8 ~]# ls -l /proc/kcore
>>> -r-------- 1 root root 5301604352 Jun 15 13:35 /proc/kcore
>>>
>>> And with your patch I can't get this number.
>>>     
>>
>> Actually that value is the bug.  It has absolutely nothing
>> to do with the offsets that are valid within /proc/kcore.
>>
>> Why do you prefer the smaller number?
>>   
> Amerigo said in the previous e-mail that " the man page for/proc/kcore is wrong,
> its size can be more than the physical memory size, because it also contains
> memory area of vmalloc(), vsyscall etc..."
>
> I have 4G memory, and 5301604352 is just a bit larger than 4G and looks sane. So
> I misunderstand that this number is right.

It should also include the 32 Tebibyte range we have for vmalloc.  So
a completely dense encoding would be a bit larger than 35184372088832
bytes.  You can see that range in your readelf -l output.

Since the encoding is not dense the size actually comes to. 256TiB.
Or roughly 281474976710656 bytes.

> But if it is also a bug, I am willing to test any of the new patch. ;)

Not in the sense that anything could go wrong.  Merely in the sense that
we have a contradictory definition.  Which causes loads of confusion.

I am wondering if this difference in definition has caused any
problems applications to fail or if this just started out as an
observation of an anomaly?

Eric



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-15 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-05  4:03 /proc/kcore has a unreasonable size(281474974617600) in x86_64 2.6.30-rc8 Tao Ma
2009-06-05  5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-05  6:59   ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  7:56     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05  8:57       ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  9:09         ` Américo Wang
2009-06-05  9:14           ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-05  9:30             ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  9:51               ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05 14:26                 ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05 17:50                   ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-06 14:37                     ` Tao Ma
2009-06-06 22:21                       ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-08  1:52                         ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-08  6:02                           ` Tao Ma
2009-06-08  6:41                             ` Américo Wang
2009-06-08  8:00                               ` Tao Ma
2009-06-09  0:43                                 ` Américo Wang
2009-06-09  4:10                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-11  5:09                                     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-11 14:12                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-12  7:54                                         ` Tao Ma
2009-06-13  4:09                                         ` [Patch BUGFIX] kcore: fix its wrong size on x86_64 Amerigo Wang
2009-06-13  4:20                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15  2:14                                             ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-15  5:59                                               ` Tao Ma
2009-06-15  7:00                                                 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-15  8:34                                                   ` Tao Ma
2009-06-15  9:00                                                     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-15 10:10                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 22:10                                                       ` TaoMa
2009-06-15 19:48                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-06-15 17:01                                                           ` Tao Ma
2009-06-15 10:08                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-16 15:29                                             ` Américo Wang
2009-06-16 19:27                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18  3:00                                                 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-18  3:37                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18  4:40                                                     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-18  5:41                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-22  8:54                                                         ` [Patch] kcore: remove its pointless size Amerigo Wang
2009-06-30 10:08                                                           ` [RESEND Patch] " Amerigo Wang
2009-07-01 21:47                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-01 23:25                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-02  0:12                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-02  0:41                                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-17 22:29                                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-21  2:09                                                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21  8:46                                                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21  9:36                                                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] kcore: clean up and update ram information properly KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21  9:38                                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] kcore: use usual list ops in kclist KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21  9:39                                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] kcore: add kclist type information KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21  9:41                                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] kcore: rebuild RAM information based on io resource information KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-21 11:29                                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] kcore: clean up and update ram information properly Andi Kleen
2009-07-22  0:27                                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-02  9:28                                                               ` [RESEND Patch] kcore: remove its pointless size Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05  5:49 ` /proc/kcore has a unreasonable size(281474974617600) in x86_64 2.6.30-rc8 Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05  6:07   ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  6:43     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05  6:56       ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  8:00         ` Amerigo Wang
2009-06-05  9:01           ` Tao Ma
2009-06-05  9:20             ` Amerigo Wang

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