From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:59:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1eixnru0w.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902242020120.3111@localhost.localdomain> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue\, 24 Feb 2009 20\:26\:29 -0800 \(PST\)")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> The question I was asking is:
>> Can we get the broken cpu hotunplug code out of the suspend path?
>
> I think we can move it around. I don't think we can get rid of it.
>
>> If we can get the devices into a low power state and not generating
>> interrupts by the time we disable cpus then we do not need to migrate
>> irqs from process context and risk hitting the ioapic bugs.
>
> At least one issue is that the actual final "go to sleep" is something
> that has to happen on just one CPU. And I'm pretty sure the others have to
> have gone through the shutdown sequence before that.
>
> And knowing ACPI, the ordering requirements will boil down to something
> insane, like "you have to turn off the other CPU's _before_ you turn off
> some od the core devices, because turning off the other CPU's may involve
> them".
>
> So if what you would _want_ to do is to move the "turn off CPU's" into the
> very innermost layer, so that different architectures can then decide
> whether they even need to go through that whole thing or not (because
> turning off one core will automatically turn off all the others, simply
> because the power was turned off), I suspect the answer is "no".
>
> So you were probably hoping to never have to have that whole horrible
> issue with moving interrupts around. I'm afraid I'm not seeing it happen.
> But maybe we can have it happen after we've disabled all the non-system
> devices, so that in practice there simply won't be any new interrupts
> coming in any more.
Right. That is what I am hoping for. No device interrupts coming into the
cpus at the time we turn them off.
We can disable the devices and thus disable the interrupts the devices
are sending before we disable the cpus. That should make cpu disable
on suspend much easier to get solid then general x86 cpu hot-unplug.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-25 4:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-22 17:37 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Rework disabling of interrupts during suspend-resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 17:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Split up sysdev_[suspend|resume] from device_power_[down|up] Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 20:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2009-02-22 21:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-22 21:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-22 22:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2009-03-05 16:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-22 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-22 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 23:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 3:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-23 8:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 9:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-23 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 10:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-23 11:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 15:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-23 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 3:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-24 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-24 23:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 23:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-25 13:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 1:17 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 2:13 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 2:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 3:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 3:31 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 3:50 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 3:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 4:13 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 4:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-26 4:24 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 9:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-26 20:34 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26 21:20 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-26 22:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:30 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 0:00 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-27 3:20 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-02-27 4:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-27 14:59 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-27 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28 3:54 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-28 10:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-28 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28 22:15 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-26 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-25 4:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-25 4:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-25 4:59 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-02-25 15:32 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-02-25 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 14:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 10:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-23 8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 12:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 20:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-23 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 15:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 15:52 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-23 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 22:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-23 22:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 22:44 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-22 18:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Rework disabling " Linus Torvalds
2009-02-22 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-22 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-22 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-22 22:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-22 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-22 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-01 22:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-01 22:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-02 23:01 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-02 23:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-02 23:18 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-02 23:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 22:56 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-04 22:03 ` [Update, rev. 5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-05 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-03 0:08 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-03 8:41 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-01 22:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] PM: Change suspend code ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-02 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-01 22:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] PM: Change hibernation " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-01 22:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] kexec: Change kexec jump " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-05 23:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Rework disabling of interrupts during suspend-resume Linus Torvalds
2009-03-06 6:47 ` Sitsofe Wheeler
2009-03-06 10:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:19 ` [RFC][PATCH][0/8] PM: Rework suspend-resume ordering to avoid problems with shared interrupts Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:20 ` [RFC][PATCH][1/8] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume (rev. 5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 16:51 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-03-07 17:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-08 3:53 ` Alan Stern
2009-03-08 10:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-08 12:37 ` Alan Stern
2009-03-08 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-08 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2009-03-08 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-09 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-09 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2009-03-09 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-07 10:21 ` [RFC][PATCH][2/8] PM: Change suspend code ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:22 ` [RFC][PATCH][3/8] PM: Change hibernation " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:23 ` [RFC][PATCH][4/8] kexec: Change kexec jump " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:24 ` [RFC][PATCH][5/8] PCI PM: Consistently use variable name "error" for pm call return values Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:25 ` [RFC][PATCH][6/8] PCI PM: Use pci_set_power_state during early resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:26 ` [RFC][PATCH][7/8] PCI PM: Move pci_restore_standard_config to pci-driver.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-07 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH][8/8] PCI PM: Put devices into low power states during late suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-08 19:28 ` [RFC][PATCH][0/8] PM: Rework suspend-resume ordering to avoid problems with shared interrupts Frans Pop
2009-03-08 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 8:44 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-14 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 14:11 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-14 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:30 ` [PATCH 0/10] PM: Rework suspend-resume ordering to avoid problems with shared interrupts (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:36 ` [PATCH 1/10] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume (rev. 5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-11 20:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 21:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-11 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 22:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-12 13:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-12 21:43 ` [update, rev. 6] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-13 0:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-13 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-13 7:15 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-13 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-13 19:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 7:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-14 10:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 0:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 21:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-11 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 21:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-11 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 22:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 22:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-11 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:37 ` [PATCH 2/10] PM: Change suspend code ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:38 ` [PATCH 3/10] PM: Change hibernation " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:39 ` [PATCH 4/10] kexec: Change kexec jump " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:41 ` [PATCH 5/10] PCI PM: Consistently use variable name "error" for pm call return values Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:42 ` [PATCH 6/10] PCI PM: Use pci_set_power_state during early resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:47 ` [PATCH 7/10] PCI PM: Move pci_restore_standard_config to pci-driver.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:48 ` [PATCH 8/10] PCI PM: Put devices into low power states during late suspend (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:55 ` [PATCH 9/10] PCI PM: Make pci_set_power_state() handle devices with no PM support Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-11 9:56 ` [PATCH 10/10] PCI PM: Restore config spaces of all devices during early resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:24 ` [PATCH 0/11] PM: Rework suspend-resume ordering to avoid problems with shared interrupts (updated 2x) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:26 ` [PATCH 1/11] PM: Introduce functions for suspending and resuming device interrupts Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:27 ` [PATCH 2/11] PM: Rework handling of interrupts during suspend-resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:28 ` [PATCH 3/11] PM: Change suspend code ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:28 ` [PATCH 4/11] PM: Change hibernation " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:29 ` [PATCH 5/11] kexec: Change kexec jump " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:30 ` [PATCH 6/11] PCI PM: Consistently use variable name "error" for pm call return values Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:31 ` [PATCH 7/11] PCI PM: Use pci_set_power_state during early resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:32 ` [PATCH 8/11] PCI PM: Move pci_restore_standard_config to pci-driver.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:32 ` [PATCH 9/11] PCI PM: Put devices into low power states during late suspend (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:33 ` [PATCH 10/11] PCI PM: Make pci_set_power_state() handle devices with no PM support Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:34 ` [PATCH 11/11] PCI PM: Restore config spaces of all devices during early resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 11:43 ` [PATCH 0/11] PM: Rework suspend-resume ordering to avoid problems with shared interrupts (updated 2x) Ingo Molnar
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