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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, herbert@13thfloor.at, dev@sw.ru,
	sam@vilain.net, xemul@sw.ru, haveblue@us.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com,
	frankeh@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] nsproxy: incorporate fs namespace
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:50:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ejz1vc2d.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060510203449.GA12215@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Wed, 10 May 2006 15:34:49 -0500")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:

> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
>> There are two additional things I can think of that are worth looking
>> at:
>> - moving copy_uts_namespace, and copy_namespace inside of copy_nsproxy
>>   so we only run those we create a new nsproxy instance.
>
> Was about to do that when I stopped because I was thinking I'd need to
> keep track of which namespace had been copied before a failaure, for
> the sake of clone.
>
> But of course I don't have to - copy_nsproxy could do the cleanup itself
> on failure.
>
> So this should be a nice little cleanup - especially as # namespaces
> increases.

Yes.  At least if nsproxy doesn't show a performance degradation...

>> - Attempting to optimize cache line utilization by placing the
>>   structures in line in struct ns_proxy:
>> 	struct nsproxy {
>> 		atomic_t count;
>> 	        struct namespace *namespace;
>> 	        struct uts_namespace *uts_ns;
>> 	        struct namespace namespace_data;
>> 	        struct new_utsname uts_data;
>> 	};
>>   With the nsproxy count severing as a count for both the embedded
>>   data and for the nsproxy itself.  I think it is a long shot but it
>>   could be interesting.
>> 
>> Given the frequency of use of the uts namespace and the filesystem
>> namespace simply I think not accessing those namespaces on fork is
>> likely to reduce the additional cache line miss rate enough so
>> that it is lost in the noise.
>
> Not getting this.  Are you saying the uts_data would be a copy of
> the contents of *uts_ns, or that uts_ns points to nsproxy->uts_data?
> If the latter, then just unsharing uts_ns but not mounts namespace
> is no longer possible, right?

The latter, uts_ns normally points to nsproxy->uts_data.  But it still
remains possible to unshare just the mounts namespace by simply coping
the pointer when we clone nsproxy, and incrementing the previous
ns_proxies count.

Like I said I think it is a long shot but if the data for namespaces
really does remain small and they are usually all unshared in a group
it could be a win.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-10 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <29vfyljM-1.2006059-s@us.ibm.com>
2006-05-10  2:11 ` [PATCH 2/9] nsproxy: incorporate fs namespace Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-10 12:46   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-10 13:26     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-10 19:07       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-10 20:34         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-10 20:50           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-05-12 15:24             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-12 15:44               ` Dave Hansen
2006-05-12 16:54                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-12 19:12                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-12 19:14     ` Serge E. Hallyn

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