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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: fweisbec@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	oleg@redhat.com, travis@sgi.com, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: + work_on_cpu-rewrite-it-to-create-a-kernel-thread-on-demand.patch  added to -mm tree
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:04:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1fxijxnnk.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090212142314.9ab6ad6f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Thu\, 12 Feb 2009 14\:23\:14 -0800")

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:13:06 -0800
> ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
>
>> 
>> I should follow up and say that the reason I care right now, is I am
>> digging into pci hotplug.  One of the issues I'm fighting is that
>> currently I appear to need a dedicated kernel thread for each pci
>> hotplug slot.  It gets easy to deadlock the kernel hotplugging
>> a hotplug controller otherwise.
>> 
>
> um, ok, if you say so...
>
> I'd have thought that a short-lived kernel thread would be appropriate,
> if poss.  Physical hotplug of a PCI device isn't a high-frequency
> operation.

Oh.  I'm working to find a way to get there.  The trouble is I have
kick off all of this from interrupt context.

> The new-fangled work_on_cpu() could do that, or maybe the new-fangled
> kernel/async.c code.

I will have to look.  A shared workqueue threatens to deadlock when I
try and hotunplug a hotplug slot.  Running cancel_work_sync for work in
your current workqueue is the problem I had. Maybe some of the rest of the
solutions won't have that kind of problem.

I have this crazy thought that workqueues should just be fixed to fork
a short lived kernel thread for each request they process, and then we
don't have to worry about stuff blocking indefinitely.  I think that
will allow us to kill off explicitly named workqueues as well.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12 23:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200902031058.n13AwOoK016719@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2009-02-03 12:11 ` + work_on_cpu-rewrite-it-to-create-a-kernel-thread-on-demand.patch added to -mm tree Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 16:58   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-02-03 19:25     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04  3:58       ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04  4:16         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:46           ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-12 20:38       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-12 20:48         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 22:08           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-12 22:13             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-12 22:23               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 23:04                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-02-12 22:20             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-13 21:21         ` Rusty Russell

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