From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:42:47 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1hd1mafe0.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44B5283E.7090806@redhat.com> (Ulrich Drepper's message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:50:06 -0700")
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> But uname is noticeably faster than sysctl and uname is more portable
>> across linux flavors. So updating the glibc pthread code to use
>> uname looks like the right way to implement is_smp_system.
>
> This is (was?) not the universal through. We used uname at some point
> but then I did some profiling and sysctl turned out to be faster.
I track the code bask as far as I could and back to about 2000 in
pthread.c when the code was introduced it always used sys_sysctl.
> If the reverse is true now I can certainly look into changing this but
> the evidence and ideally has to be there. The simplicity of the uname
> code should mean that it's faster.
The evidence and ideally what has to be there?
> In a year or two I'll remove the test anyway. By then there will likely
> not be any UP kernels on reasonable machines anymore and I can drop all
> the conditional code.
Well there are embedded targets but I guess uclibc takes care of them.
Unless a darn good reason for keeping it is found, sys_sysctl won't be
in the kernel several months from now. And uname is faster by a large
margin than /proc.
Right now because there has been a deprecated note in
"include/linux/sysctl.h" since 2003 people currently feel fine with
letting sys_sysctl code bit rot. I am trying to resolve that
situation most likely by just updating the few stray pieces of user
space that care and then cutting out that chunk of kernel code.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-12 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-10 22:39 [PATCH] sysctl: Document that sys_sysctl will be removed Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11 4:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 7:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 16:25 ` [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 16:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 17:42 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-07-12 23:24 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-12 23:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:12 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-13 2:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 12:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-12 23:44 ` Steve Munroe
2006-07-14 18:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:09 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 18:44 ` Roland McGrath
2006-07-12 19:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 19:53 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-07-12 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 21:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 22:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 23:07 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-12 23:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-14 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:33 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-13 5:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-13 6:27 ` Ian Wienand
2006-07-13 14:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 15:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-13 5:00 Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 5:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 6:09 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:13 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 16:15 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 15:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
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