From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@profusion.mobi>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl: add support for poll()
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:16:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ipsoco8r.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110602134338.0c56160e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (Alan Cox's message of "Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:43:38 +0100")
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>> Host names are dynamic, can change during system runtime by dhcp or
>> similar setups, or just get changed by the user.
>
> I don't actually see what this has to do with utsname. uname historically
> defined nodename as "name within an implementation-defined communications
> network" and actually tended to be the UUCP name. Modern SuS says "`the
> name of the node of the communications network to which this node is
> attached, if any"
>
> The latter unfortunately makes no sense anyway and is a fine example of
> standards body cluelessness as name mapping on IP networks is not one
> name per host, and also because the standard doesn't require the fields
> in the struct are long enough to hold a DNS name!
>
> (Indeed in its usual head up backside manner its technically valid to
> define
>
> char nodename[1];
>
> and have only \0 as a valid reply)
However we have conveniently defined sethostname and gethostname to use
the same state in the kernel, as uname. I believe at least one of these
interfaces that map to the same storage in linux has a usable size
guaranteed by all of the implementations.
Eric
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-02 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-01 12:14 [PATCH] sysctl: add support for poll() Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-02 2:51 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-02 3:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 12:06 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-02 12:43 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-02 13:01 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-02 13:02 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-02 13:12 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-02 13:24 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-02 13:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 17:32 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-08 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 13:16 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-13 16:05 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-14 3:53 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-14 4:17 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-26 2:17 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-08-02 22:53 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-02 23:16 ` Greg KH
2011-08-03 1:12 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-08-03 9:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-08-03 13:17 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-08-03 18:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-08-03 18:45 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-08-04 18:57 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-08-23 17:57 ` Greg KH
2011-08-26 21:06 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-12 15:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-13 14:28 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-02 14:16 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
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