From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: andrew.grover@intel.com (Grover, Andrew),
russell@coker.com.au ('Russell Coker'),
acpi@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ("Acpi-linux (E-mail)"),
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ('linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org')
Subject: Re: lilo vs other OS bootloaders was: FreeBSD makes progress
Date: 08 Sep 2001 11:55:23 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1iteth8j8.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15cx6w-00049f-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15cx6w-00049f-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> > So of course I realize this wouldn't happen any time soon, but has any
> > discussion taken place regarding enhancing the bootloader (grub? Steal
> > FreeBSD's?) to load modular drivers very early, and possibly abstracting
> > SMP/UP from the kernel proper? Wouldn't this be a better solution than
> > initrd?
>
> All the discussion we have has been based on seriously enhancing and
> expanding the use of the initrd/ramfs layer. Remember we can begin running
> from ramfs without interrupts, pci bus scans or the like. The things it cant
> do are - pick a kernel by processor type, pick SMP/non SMP.
>
> As it happens both of those are things that are deeply buried in the whole
> compile choices and how we generate the code itself - so they do need to
> be boot loader driven (or user driven)
>
> So the path for ACPI could indeed go
>
> load kernel
> load initial ramfs
> Discover we have ACPI
> load acpi core
> load acpi irq router
> load acpi timers
> [init hardware]
> load ide disk
> load ext3
> mount /
Sounds about right.
If we really need to do weird things like pick a kernel by processor
type, or pick SMP/non SMP. You can even do those from an initramfs
with a linux booting linux kernel patch.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-08 18:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-31 21:49 lilo vs other OS bootloaders was: FreeBSD makes progress Grover, Andrew
2001-08-31 22:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-31 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-01 15:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-08 17:55 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-09-08 18:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-01 14:55 Samium Gromoff
2001-09-01 12:03 ` Peter Wächtler
2001-09-01 12:39 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-01 14:10 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 21:52 Grover, Andrew
2001-09-05 1:51 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-05 8:03 ` Helge Hafting
2001-09-05 14:26 ` Horst von Brand
2001-09-11 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-05 21:18 Grover, Andrew
2001-09-05 22:11 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-05 22:13 ` Tim Hockin
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