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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	tridge@samba.org, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>,
	Ogawa Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:30:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1k54wal0j.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1241453259.20170.17.camel@norville.austin.ibm.com> (Dave Kleikamp's message of "Mon\, 04 May 2009 11\:07\:39 -0500")

Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

> That's for the maintainers to decide.  If they agree it has worth, maybe
> it's a good idea to answer "How".

Al and Christoph said essentially the same thing and they generally
are considered the general area filesystem maintainers.

This kind of thing does not appear to have come up before and
so procedurally you guys are setting are attempting to set
a precedent.

All I know is that doing it the way you are doing seems like a bad
idea.  Not discussing things or even the reason you can't discuss them
seems foolish and leaves no one satisfied.

Maybe there are good reasons but so far this whole thing just stinks.

When all of the pieces are public how can having secret veiled reasons
make sense?

And if secret magic consultations with lawyers are going to be invoked
I expect we should have a Signed-off-by from those lawyers.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-04 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-01 20:18 [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Steve French
2009-05-01 21:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  1:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  1:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-02  3:02       ` Steve French
2009-05-02  4:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  9:15       ` tridge
2009-05-02  9:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  9:30           ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-03 21:57             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-03 22:25               ` tridge
2009-05-03 22:56                 ` Al Viro
2009-05-03 23:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-04  5:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04  6:34                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04  6:49                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 12:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 12:44                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 13:06                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 13:21                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 14:39                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:08                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 15:36                                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 15:59                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:07                                           ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 16:30                                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-05-04 16:42                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:18                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 17:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:54                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 18:14                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:06                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2009-05-04 17:27                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 20:53                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-04 23:03                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 11:09                                                 ` David Newall
2009-05-05 20:56                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:04                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-05 22:29                                                       ` Steve French
2009-05-05  8:31                                               ` Zero-day exploit details (Was: Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option) David Newall
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 16:10                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 16:22                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 22:12                                               ` Greg KH
2009-05-05  2:01                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  2:11                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  2:18                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  3:34                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  8:05                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 15:35                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 21:00                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:56                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  3:08                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:40                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-02  6:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  2:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-02  6:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-01 17:41 Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-01 18:12   ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:19     ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 19:09       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 10:09 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:14   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:26     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:41       ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:03         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:13           ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:29             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:41               ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:59                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 12:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:48                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 13:06                       ` tridge
2009-05-02 14:01                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-27 12:05                   ` vimal singh
2009-05-27 23:57                     ` tridge
2009-06-04 10:26                       ` vimal singh
2009-06-04 21:33                         ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:20   ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:32     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-03 21:56 ` Pavel Machek

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