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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] user namespaces: require cap_set{ug}id for CLONE_NEWUSER
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:17:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1k5aepmne.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081205164552.GA16788@us.ibm.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:45:52 -0600")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:

>> Personally the user namespace only becomes interesting when we
>> start to be able to move in the other direction and remove the
>> set of capabilities requires to create it.
>> 
>> Eric
>
> Agreed.  Now the thing is I don't think we need full userns
> support to get there.  We just need the targeted capabilities
> and the basic dummy fs support - that is, init_user_ns owns
> all vfsmounts, and anyone not in init_user_ns only gets
> user other access to files under those mounts.

Right.

> Of course complete support for targeted caps will in itself
> be a huge effort :)
>
> So my roadmap is: next address the per-user keyring, then
> the targeted caps.

Sounds good.

I expect this means we will pass through a period where the user
namespace is less useful than it is today.  But as it will be on
a much firmer foundation that is fine.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-05 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-03 19:17 [PATCH 1/2] user namespaces: let user_ns be cloned with fairsched Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-03 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] user namespaces: require cap_set{ug}id for CLONE_NEWUSER Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-05 16:24   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-05 16:45     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-05 17:17       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-12-05 17:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-07 22:47     ` James Morris
2008-12-05 10:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] user namespaces: let user_ns be cloned with fairsched James Morris
2008-12-05 14:44   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-07 22:46 ` James Morris
2008-12-08 16:04   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-08 21:15     ` James Morris

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