From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: rientjes@google.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] ipv4: don't warn about skb ack allocation failures
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:41:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ljnoyn0e.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090618.123708.78849607.davem@davemloft.net> (David Miller's message of "Thu\, 18 Jun 2009 12\:37\:08 -0700 \(PDT\)")
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> writes:
> From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
>
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, David Miller wrote:
>>
>>> > I disagree, page allocation failure messages show vital information about
>>> > the state of the VM so that we can find bugs and GFP_ATOMIC allocations
>>> > are the most common trigger for these diagnostic messages since
>>> > __GFP_WAIT allocations can trigger direct reclaim (and __GFP_FS
>>> > allocations can trigger the oom killer) to free memory and will retry the
>>> > allocation if ~__GFP_NORETRY.
>>>
>>> It's COMPLETELY and ABSOLUTELY normal for GFP_ATOMIC allocations to
>>> fail in the networking.
>>>
>>
>> __GFP_NOWARN exists for that reason.
>
> You're going to have to put that into every driver, every part of
> the core networking, every protocol.
>
> That's dumb.
>
>> I understand what you're trying to avoid, but I disagree with the
>> approach of altering the default behavior of GFP_ATOMIC.
>
> The default got changed at some point because it never did
> crap like this before.
I started seeing this about when I upgraded to 2.6.28.
>> I may suggest that emitting the page allocation failures become a
>> compile time option; CONFIG_DEBUG_VM would be my suggestion.
>
> Use statistics gathering and tracing for this, not log spam.
>
> It serves all of your needs without spewing junk into the log. It
> allows complete diagnosis and gathering of whatever information you
> may need.
I know my logs are overloaded with this noise, even on my laptop!
But Mr. Reintjes if you really want the traces I can set up
an script to email them to you every time it happens. Say about
1 a minute from my paltry little farm of machines.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-19 20:44 UTC|newest]
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2009-06-16 16:06 ` 2.6.29.1: nfsd: page allocation failure - nfsd or kernel problem? Justin Piszcz
2009-06-16 20:19 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-17 8:43 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-17 9:43 ` Justin Piszcz
2009-06-17 10:39 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-17 18:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-06-17 20:24 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-17 20:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-18 8:54 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-18 17:07 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-18 17:56 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-06-18 18:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-06-18 18:15 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-17 22:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-06-18 0:14 ` Zdenek Kaspar
2009-06-17 19:44 ` [patch] ipv4: don't warn about skb ack allocation failures David Rientjes
2009-06-17 20:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-17 20:33 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-17 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-17 21:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-17 22:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-17 23:08 ` David Miller
2009-06-18 16:56 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-18 19:00 ` David Miller
2009-06-18 19:23 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-18 19:37 ` David Miller
2009-06-19 19:45 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-19 20:41 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-06-19 22:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-19 23:04 ` David Miller
2009-06-20 1:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19 23:03 ` David Miller
2009-06-22 16:08 ` 2.6.30: nfsd: page allocation failure - nfsd or kernel problem? (again with 2.6.30) Justin Piszcz
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